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Learn to Skate 12 19.35%
Pre-Novice 5 8.06%
Novice 2 3.23%
Intermediate 3 4.84%
Pre-Juvenile 9 14.52%
Juvenile 5 8.06%
Junior 0 0%
Senior 0 0%
Other..please say what level,or your equivalent to the levels here. 29 46.77%
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Old 04-12-2007, 02:14 PM
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What level skater are you?

Say, I was wondering what majority of skaters are at what level here?
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Old 04-12-2007, 02:39 PM
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I am not sure what level I am based on those categories. I have passed my UK level 3 elements and programme and the equivalent of level 4 field moves.

Elements wise I can land up to a lutz and am working on doubles (not particularly successfully)

Spins – struggle with spins – working on camel-sit and sit-sit.
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Old 04-12-2007, 02:49 PM
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Adult Silver moves (maybe gold next year?), but I have not tested freestyle. I could pass Adult Pre-Bronze freestyle, but Bronze would be a problem because I don't have a backspin.
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Old 04-12-2007, 03:05 PM
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Old 04-12-2007, 03:23 PM
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Test-wise I am Pre-Juvenile and I am able to do all singles through lutz (which got sort of inconsistent recently). Competition-wise, however, I am in USFSA Freeskate 5, and I am working on perfecting the lutz, axel prep-work, and back sit spins.
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Old 04-12-2007, 03:41 PM
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Went through the adult track. Now working on Novice moves.
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Old 04-12-2007, 05:16 PM
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usfsa- I haven't tested yet, but based on the TESTS(not and not the usual competition standard, I could be up to preliminary.

isi- testwise I'm FS3 but I should be in FS4. I just haven't tested for that yet.

All my singles are really nice and high and clean all the time, so I'm going to start trying the axel soon.
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Old 04-12-2007, 05:23 PM
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Test-wise I am Pre-Juvenile and I am able to do all singles through lutz (which got sort of inconsistent recently). Competition-wise, however, I am in USFSA Freeskate 5, and I am working on perfecting the lutz, axel prep-work, and back sit spins.
Have you tested at pre juv?Moves do you mean ?
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Old 04-12-2007, 05:31 PM
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Have you tested at pre juv?Moves do you mean ?
Moves and Freestyle. I don't plan on competing on this level anytime soon, obviously. Though I might when I get my axel and at least one double consistent (though, most doubles skaters do in PrePre and Preliminary competitions are rather cheated).
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Old 04-12-2007, 05:38 PM
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[QUOTE=WannabeS8r;317380]Moves and Freestyle. I don't plan on competing on this level anytime soon, obviously. Though I might when I get my axel and at least one double consistent (though, most doubles skaters do in PrePre and Preliminary competitions are rather cheated).[/QUOTE

pre pre skaters cant have doubles in programs. I assume that when you do compete you would have to compete in at least pre juv?You cannt compete below your test level.You cant compete in basic skills or freeskate 5 if you have tested ANY fs test.

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Old 04-12-2007, 05:46 PM
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Sasha you passed your prejuv mitf test?!
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Old 04-12-2007, 05:59 PM
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pre pre skaters cant have doubles in programs. I assume that when you do compete you would have to compete in at least pre juv?You cannt compete below your test level.You cant compete in basic skills or freeskate 5 if you have tested ANY fs test.
Oh, I definitely don't want to compete in PrePre... competing against 8-year-old jumping beans is not really my thing.

My coach is planning on having me pass *officially* the Pre-Juv. test next month, and we actually went over the MITF and everything that will be on the test. So, I am not OFFICIALLY past Pre-Juv, it's just that my coach has already told me that I have all the elements and moves and field that will be on the test.

There was no FreeSkate 5 or anything on the poll so I chose "PreJuvenile" based on my current skating ability (just test-wise) just for the sake of it. I will be in a month, anyway! I apologize for the misunderstanding if this is not allowed though.
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Old 04-12-2007, 06:01 PM
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Old 04-12-2007, 06:18 PM
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Oh, I definitely don't want to compete in PrePre... competing against 8-year-old jumping beans is not really my thing.

My coach is planning on having me pass *officially* the Pre-Juv. test next month, and we actually went over the MITF and everything that will be on the test. So, I am not OFFICIALLY past Pre-Juv, it's just that my coach has already told me that I have all the elements and moves and field that will be on the test.

There was no FreeSkate 5 or anything on the poll so I chose "PreJuvenile" based on my current skating ability (just test-wise) just for the sake of it. I will be in a month, anyway! I apologize for the misunderstanding if this is not allowed though.
So you have taken and passed pre pre and prelim moves and fs already then? I dont mean to be a pest, but just because you know the moves doesnt mean you can pass the test.Pre juv is the level they start really not passing, and looking for more speed and power.
Even if you compete at pre pre, you would be with the 10 and up skaters, not the 8 years olds.Its USUALLY under 10 and over 10.

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Old 04-12-2007, 07:30 PM
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I picked other - I have passed Pre-Preliminary FS and Preliminary MITF. I can land up to lutz and all single combos (lutz-loop, flip-toe-loop, etc), working really hard on axel and 2sal. Cheating both of them on two feet - ugh! Spins - scratch, back scratch, sit, camel, layback, really sucky flying camel, ok camel-sit, ok sit-back sit. I'm working on Pre-Juv MITF with the hope of testing that this fall or winter. Hopefully by then I will have a solid axel and 2sal and can test Preliminary FS.
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So you have taken and passed pre pre and prelim moves and fs already then? I dont mean to be a pest, but just because you know the moves doesnt mean you can pass the test.Pre juv is the level they start really not passing, and looking for more speed and power.
Even if you compete at pre pre, you would be with the 10 and up skaters, not the 8 years olds.Its USUALLY under 10 and over 10.
I compete Pre-Pre and usually I am with 13 and up skaters (I am 17). At the last competition I competed Preliminary Compulsory Moves and there was only one group. Six girls, ages 8-17. Everyone skated close in level - fast, good edges. The littest girls got 1st, 2nd, 3rd and the older girls followed. Thats the way it works sometimes.

Actually around here there are a lot of older girls at Pre-Pre/Prelim and Pre-Juv is the little ones.

About the MITF test - I've known the moves/patterns for Pre-Juv for 6months now but we didn't start seriously working on them till two weeks ago when I passed Prelim MITF. i have a semi private on them every week (two of us) and I do each move at least 3 times a session just to ingrain them into my head.
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Old 04-12-2007, 07:49 PM
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I picked other - I have passed Pre-Preliminary FS and Preliminary MITF. I can land up to lutz and all single combos (lutz-loop, flip-toe-loop, etc), working really hard on axel and 2sal. Cheating both of them on two feet - ugh! Spins - scratch, back scratch, sit, camel, layback, really sucky flying camel, ok camel-sit, ok sit-back sit. I'm working on Pre-Juv MITF with the hope of testing that this fall or winter. Hopefully by then I will have a solid axel and 2sal and can test Preliminary FS.

I compete Pre-Pre and usually I am with 13 and up skaters (I am 17). At the last competition I competed Preliminary Compulsory Moves and there was only one group. Six girls, ages 8-17. Everyone skated close in level - fast, good edges. The littest girls got 1st, 2nd, 3rd and the older girls followed. Thats the way it works sometimes.

Actually around here there are a lot of older girls at Pre-Pre/Prelim and Pre-Juv is the little ones.

About the MITF test - I've known the moves/patterns for Pre-Juv for 6months now but we didn't start seriously working on them till two weeks ago when I passed Prelim MITF. i have a semi private on them every week (two of us) and I do each move at least 3 times a session just to ingrain them into my head.
That is why I said its USUALLY 10 and over, 10 and under. Not always. We live in a small state and both my kids have been with older kids. Its just a part of skating.I think in fs they TRY and keep them close in age, but comp moves and artistic/. showcase its more of just try to have a group of kids. My son competes with girls in all things but Fs.
About moves, I think most skaters know and work on moves long before they test them. My daughter does her pre juv every day, but is ony testing her prelim moves next month.That is why i asked if she really has tested her moves our just knows them.
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Old 04-12-2007, 08:08 PM
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Technically, I am pre-preliminary but I plan on testing through juvenile all at once! I have never been in a competition before. I have only been skating for 14 months. I landed my first axel 3 months ago. I landed my first clean double loop yesterday I am not sure how good I'll be in a competition when the pressure is on and judges are watching your every move and facial gesture. I'll do my best though.
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Old 04-12-2007, 08:15 PM
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I think wanabee made it pretty clear that she's not pre-juv but it ready to test pre-juv

Not that you asked for advice, but you sound like you are waiting until you are at a higher level before you compete - I suggest you just jump in there and compete and don't worry if a five year old will beat you (although at the pre pre and prelim level, they usually put the older girls together if there are enough) It's not just how well you do the elements, it makes a difference how much experience you have competing, girls who have competed more are probably going to do better. To get experience, you have to start somewhere - just jump in and go for it.
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Old 04-12-2007, 08:29 PM
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I think wanabee made it pretty clear that she's not pre-juv but it ready to test pre-juv

Not that you asked for advice, but you sound like you are waiting until you are at a higher level before you compete - I suggest you just jump in there and compete and don't worry if a five year old will beat you (although at the pre pre and prelim level, they usually put the older girls together if there are enough) It's not just how well you do the elements, it makes a difference how much experience you have competing, girls who have competed more are probably going to do better. To get experience, you have to start somewhere - just jump in and go for it.
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Im not sure if she is ready to test pre juv or she can just do the elements in pre juv.I guess what Im trying to say is that you arent in a level until you pass it !! Most skaters can do things from higher levels but difference with doing it and doing it well enough to pass.
You are in a level when you pass it , not before.Most skaters work on moves at least a level or two above always.
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Old 04-12-2007, 08:52 PM
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Im not sure if she is ready to test pre juv or she can just do the elements in pre juv.I guess what Im trying to say is that you arent in a level until you pass it !! Most skaters can do things from higher levels but difference with doing it and doing it well enough to pass.
You are in a level when you pass it , not before.Most skaters work on moves at least a level or two above always.
Exactly. I'm concentrating on Pre-Juv MITF but I know all of Juvenile MITF and a lot of the patterns from Intermediate and Novice. Novice Bracket pattern is HARD!
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Im not sure if she is ready to test pre juv or she can just do the elements in pre juv.I guess what Im trying to say is that you arent in a level until you pass it !! Most skaters can do things from higher levels but difference with doing it and doing it well enough to pass.
You are in a level when you pass it , not before.Most skaters work on moves at least a level or two above always.
Shrug. She clarified and said her coach told her she was ready to test pre-juv ...she didn't sound like she was misrepresenting herself.

I thought part of the conversation here was clarifying what people are doing especially since we are international, plus there's an adult track. Just saying what level you have passed doesn't really say much either, I can say I've passed pre bronze - but there are a people here who haven't passed pre-bronze and are working on a lot more advance stuff than me


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Old 04-12-2007, 10:14 PM
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Shrug. She clarified and said her coach told her she was ready to test pre-juv ...she didn't sound like she was misrepresenting herself.

I thought part of the conversation here was clarifying what people are doing especially since we are international, plus there's an adult track. Just saying what level you have passed doesn't really say much either, I can say I've passed pre bronze - but there are a people here who haven't passed pre-bronze and are working on a lot more advance stuff than me


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She said she was pre juv but was really was freeskate 5. You really cant be at both levels at the same time which is why I asked.If you take any fs test at all, you can only compete at that level, not lower.Im not sure what tests she has taken and passed. Just because a coach says you are at that level realy doesnt make it so My daughter has novice moves in her Fs program but she isnt at novice level

Dont mean to be difficult,just to understand what she means.
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Old 04-13-2007, 12:28 AM
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I compete in adult gold (but never done any tests because we don't have a adult test system in place here) and previously competed in pre-juvenile although the system in singapore has been changing over the last couple years so it turns out that I also failed my pre-juvenile test last year as well, after I competed in pre-juvenile a few years before... but I just put pre-juvenile as the category... since it seems like the closest... I also compete in freestyle 6 for ISI
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Old 04-13-2007, 03:27 AM
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I'm another "other". Adult Silver in Australian competition standards. We don't have adult tests here. I have competed only the once at adult silver. If there aren't adult divisions I have to compete at the Aussie Elementary level because of the tests I passed when I was younger. Not competitive at that level.

I have single jumps through to a rather wild flip, and occasional lutz.
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Old 04-13-2007, 04:21 AM
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I would be other as well. Don't know what the UK equivalent is. And we don't have adult testing in the UK.

I have level 3 elements and free and would like to take my level 4 sometime (axel permitting).

I have level 6 field moves.

Jumps - I can do up to a lutz no problem and I'm working on axels and doubles. Have landed axels and double salchows in the past but they are inconsistent.

Spins - can do camel, sit, layback, backsit. Have tried flying camels, change foot camels and other variations on a theme!
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