New WBP Requirements Posted - Page 3

w.w.west · #51 07-27-2006, 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by NoVa Sk8r

Indeed.
Check out the first bullet point here:
http://www.usfigureskating.org/Programs.asp?id=46
"The IJS will only be used at the U.S. Adult Championships for gold events and higher (not including interpretive events). The IJS will not be used at the adult sectional championships for any events at all."

Also, my understanding was that GC changed the WBP rules now, so that adults could get used to them for when IJS will be used for all events.

Yes. This is correct. And the WBP rules apply whether IJS or 6.0 is used. The difference is that in 6.0 there will be deductions for extra jumps or spins performed while in IJS, points simply will not be given.

The reason that IJS is only being used for Gold and higher at AN is that we have to start somewhere. It may or may not be used for other events in the future, but if it is, it will be a phase-in process.

Also, the Pre-Bronze WBP did not change since it is not an event at AN. The table that was posted on the website recently was an oversight. It is in the process of being corrected.

It is also very important to READ THE ANNOUNCEMENT OF EACH INDIVIDUAL COMPETITION.

These boards are great for communicating, support, etc. However, when a question arises that involves rules, my suggestion would be to contact the chair of the appropriate committee or your respective Sectional Vice Chair.

I know that all this is confusing, but it will work itself out like everything else. Please be patient and enjoy your skating!

NoVa Sk8r · #52 07-27-2006, 09:04 AM

On another note, this has bearing for those who will be competing under IJS:
http://usfsa.org/content/Sit%20spin%...tification.pdf

"Sit position in spins"
-A sit position is obtained when the angle of the skating leg in the knee is not more than 90 degrees, if the angle is more than 90 degrees, the position is considered an upright.

If the buttocks are higher than the knee, there must be a GOE reduction of -1 to -3 (depending on the height and the duration of such position)

*All skaters need to be aware that if they come up too high in trying to get a feature in the sit spin, at that point they may be converting that spin to a combination spin if it gets called an "upright spin", due to the over 90 degrees.*

sk8er1964 · #53 07-27-2006, 02:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoVa Sk8r

On another note, this has bearing for those who will be competing under IJS:
http://usfsa.org/content/Sit%20spin%...tification.pdf

"Sit position in spins"
-A sit position is obtained when the angle of the skating leg in the knee is not more than 90 degrees, if the angle is more than 90 degrees, the position is considered an upright.

If the buttocks are higher than the knee, there must be a GOE reduction of -1 to -3 (depending on the height and the duration of such position)

*All skaters need to be aware that if they come up too high in trying to get a feature in the sit spin, at that point they may be converting that spin to a combination spin if it gets called an "upright spin", due to the over 90 degrees.*

I know adults have been dinged on this already, but have you taken a look at the elite's sit spins lately? With all the variations and edge changes, there's a lot of butts sticking up in the air out there!

NoVa Sk8r · #54 07-27-2006, 02:44 PM

Well, apparently, your butt can stick out as long as that 90 degree stricture is observed. (And who was it telling me that Plushenko has mastered this?!)

TimDavidSkate · #55 07-27-2006, 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoVa Sk8r

On another note, this has bearing for those who will be competing under IJS:
http://usfsa.org/content/Sit%20spin%...tification.pdf

"Sit position in spins"
-A sit position is obtained when the angle of the skating leg in the knee is not more than 90 degrees, if the angle is more than 90 degrees, the position is considered an upright.

If the buttocks are higher than the knee, there must be a GOE reduction of -1 to -3 (depending on the height and the duration of such position)

*All skaters need to be aware that if they come up too high in trying to get a feature in the sit spin, at that point they may be converting that spin to a combination spin if it gets called an "upright spin", due to the over 90 degrees.*

~~~* whip * ouch, its really pushing everybody to be better

jazzpants · #56 07-27-2006, 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoVa Sk8r

On another note, this has bearing for those who will be competing under IJS:
http://usfsa.org/content/Sit%20spin%...tification.pdf

"Sit position in spins"
-A sit position is obtained when the angle of the skating leg in the knee is not more than 90 degrees, if the angle is more than 90 degrees, the position is considered an upright.

If the buttocks are higher than the knee, there must be a GOE reduction of -1 to -3 (depending on the height and the duration of such position)

*All skaters need to be aware that if they come up too high in trying to get a feature in the sit spin, at that point they may be converting that spin to a combination spin if it gets called an "upright spin", due to the over 90 degrees.*

(Sarcastic tone) Greeeeat! I could see the judges going out there with a protractor to verify that the person's sit spin is at 90 or under.

doubletoe · #57 07-27-2006, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by TimDavidSkate

~~~* whip * ouch, its really pushing everybody to be better

Or at least develop a butt that hangs down more!

jazzpants · #58 07-27-2006, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by doubletoe

Or at least develop a butt that hangs down more!

Great! Now I'm thinking of that Sir Mix-a-Lot rap tune in my head!!!

"I like big butts and I cannot lie..."

mikawendy · #59 07-27-2006, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by doubletoe

Or at least develop a butt that hangs down more!

PML, doubletoe!!!! Too funny!

singerskates · #60 07-28-2006, 01:42 AM

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Originally Posted by LoopLoop

To be honest, I'd ask someone in the U.S. about registering for USFSA competitions rather than trust the word of a parent of a Canadian skater.

Carol Moir is the programs director for Skate Canada Western Ontario Section, not just a mother of a world class junior ice dancer.

singerskates

singerskates · #61 07-28-2006, 01:52 AM

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Originally Posted by sk8er1964

I announced a large comp in May, and when we had Canadian skaters we would tell the referee so he wouldn't ding them with a time violation.

Which competition was this and has it already happened?

singerskates

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