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Old 06-11-2006, 07:09 AM
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Melting or Nicely Frozen (Practice Thread 11-17 June 2006)

Because too many rinks melt in the summer......

Melting: I am quite sure that since the coach altered the entry to our lift (to enable the rotation), Husband holds me lower - I don't feel nearly as secure as I used.

I don't know if it is the Husband, or me, or both (probably), but we simply can't hold our backspin quite long enough. I am usually quite comfortable with it, and could carry on, but Husband seems to grind to a halt. And this was the problem in our change-foot, too, which we are hoping to put in our very thrown-together couples' artistic.

It was far too hot to face wearing my 100-denier tights this morning, so I put on a pair of footed Danskins someone had passed on to me, but they were just too small (size C), not very comfortable! Won't wear them again unless I really do lose more weight, which is unlikely.

We messed up our run-through of the free dance, and I don't think we've quite mastered the changed choreography at the end, either. Sigh. Less than 3 weeks to go until it gets its World Premiere at Bracknell.

Nicely Frozen: Our Dutch Waltz came back, thankfully. I did have to yell at us both to PUSH!!!! like a woman in labour, but once we started pushing, it was fine. Fiesta okay, Husband's solo is, to quote his coach: "The dance is great; your timing is awful!" and his partnering is as bad! He - husband - was like "I don't do arms" at his coach (they were discussing his free programme), but I pointed out afterwards that if he did do arms, it would help his partnering, since he wouldn't just plonk his hands where they're supposed to be (or worse, where they're not supposed to be, like on my bum in reverse Kilian hold!) and leave them there. So this afternoon, if he can stay awake, we are going to watch The Magic of Style. And just maybe Physics on Ice, to help his hydroblade.

Had great fun roughing out our Couples' Artistic - I can't finish choreographing it until after Wednesday, as I won't have any props until then, and I don't know how they will work. But as long as we work on the important stuff first, we can work on it each session after Wednesday....
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Old 06-11-2006, 11:04 AM
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One Big Puddle! Haven't skated in 2 weeks, since the end of "spring school"

Perfect Ice! I have rented a rink (1 hour this week and 2 hours next) and it looks like there will only be 4 of us skating! It is going to be DELIGHTFUL to have the full ice without worrying about kiddies under foot or advanced young hot-shots taking up the whole rink! I am tired of hugging the boards
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Old 06-11-2006, 03:46 PM
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Nicely Frozen:

Went to visit sk8pdx in Portland, skated at two different rinks and had a generally good time in between. Am going to pursue pairs lessons and hopefully start going down every weekend and learning loads of new skills. While I was there, talked to my fitter a bit more about the new skates I'm getting - I think I'm going to go for parabolic blades as most people seem to say good things about them, though I hadn't wanted them initially...

Melting:

Realized that simple-looking pairs things, even just crossovers, are not as simple as they look, and we can't really do much without coaching. Of course, on the weekends, the coach we'd like is another hour and a half away after an already 3 hour drive. But...once a week...for pairs training... I think that's worth it.

But yeah, I feel like a complete newbie to the rink since pairs stuff is so totally different.
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Old 06-11-2006, 04:47 PM
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Melting:
Well, I didn't really skate much this weekend, I taught instead. (All my favorite students, too! Shhhh...Don't tell anyone.) I did get in a few good spins while teasing my students. "Okay, now you do the sit spin!" (This to my Basic 2 group class - hahaha)

Nicely Frozen:
Had a great time skating with DBNY, her DH, Jazzpants, and Sk8pics on Saturday. Afterwards, we went out to eat and talk. DBNY is supposed to post the picture she took with her new toy... (Hint, Hint.)
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Old 06-11-2006, 06:31 PM
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Nicely frozen: ok, I tried out the new blades today, Coronation Aces; which are a switch from the Coronation Comets. So, I ran through my moves to check out how they felt. Everything felt very nice with no real difference until i got to the scratch spin....I did a 13 revolution spin! Wasn't terribly centered but I did manage to get the revolutions up. the other spins were decent (finally!!!!!)

And my back crossovers were NOT scratchy!!!

Everything else felt really good: crossovers, 3-turns, edges, swing rolls.
Jumps: waltz took a bit of warming up to do, and you guys were right about having to push a bit more in the heel (thanks!) and the salchow was the same story (I'm still trying to hold the check more on that one...rushing it as I found out during the seminar and Dartfish analysis). Worked a few toe-loops (i know i'm bending my picking leg, I'll fix it a bit later). Didn't try any loops, I'll do them later.

Final Verdict: I like Coronation Aces! Wish I'd switched LAST YEAR when I wanted to!

Melting: Didn't really do much on my weak items, no sit-spin attempts (will try those next time). However, I did manage to rip two rather large holes in my pants on a backspin attempt! And I still can't accomplish that durn backspin! UGH! I'll have to go back to the book and read my notes, maybe figure out what i'm doing wrong.

ETA: i did some waltz jumps on my trampoline today, but i'm not really sure if i'm doing it right. I did manage to do a loop though and i was happy about that. Gee, it really does help to bring your arms in!
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Old 06-11-2006, 10:28 PM
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Nicely Frozen: I skated a bunch last week and summer ice starts next week (=5 days a week at least skating!). I had some great double lutzes today in practice (compared to where they're normally at), and I'm just glad to be out there skating.


Melting: My blades are dead. The tempered edge is completely gone from the toe pick to the ball of the foot. This makes anything loop or flip related incredibly hard for me. I fell really hard today on a double salchow-double loop attempt (my toe slipped out on the double loop part).

I wear MK Phantoms which run around $450. With mounting, I'm up to $500. . .and I'm just going to have to pay for mounting again in 2 months when I get new boots. What a waste of money! Looking forward to the new blades, though. No more slipping and sliding!
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Old 06-11-2006, 11:05 PM
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Melting:
it is very uncomfortable sitting today. (too many failed attempts at backwards shoot-the-ducks).

Nicely Frozen:
Positive outcomes with Casey this weekend to explore pairs skating.
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Old 06-12-2006, 04:06 AM
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[QUOTE=Mrs Redboots]

We messed up our run-through of the free dance, and I don't think we've quite mastered the changed choreography at the end, either. Sigh. Less than 3 weeks to go until it gets its World Premiere at Bracknell.
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Melting - less then 3 weeks omg! I'd better start sorting my legs out!
Frozen - i can finally remember the steps to my 2 compulsories although I did think I had a bit longer! I just have to tidy it up a bit now!
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Old 06-12-2006, 08:05 PM
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Melting:
Forward power perimeter crossovers- now Coach and I know that I can hold the undercut, but like to step onto the inside edge before the axis.

Frozen:
Right forward outside threes- need to thaw those out!
For the moment, all but one move of the Bronze moves is being worked on the short axis, akin to getting demoted? Why? To break the moves down and get them right and passing!
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Old 06-12-2006, 08:24 PM
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Great lesson, unfortunately it's 1 of 4... so they are 25% over.

Nicely Frozen: New rink, new lessons, new instructor. Todays lesson covered all of Adult 2- and he told us we all were good enough at everything to pass so we would start Adult 3 next week. This thrills me, because I have done everything in Adult 2 except chasses (really? Just picking a foot up?) and pivots (those were not good), but it confuses me because as an overall the class does not have mastery of the skills. But since I really really want to work on the Adult 3 stuff, I'm very happy. The instructor is amazing- he demonstrates and explains well and has a very fun attitude.

Melting: Instructor comment "You're too good of a skater to not bend your knees" and the new rink is freezing. My hands were almost frozen solid by the end of the hour (must bring gloves next week- I've never skated in gloves before) and 2 hours later my forearm is still spasming from the cold.

So- any tips on forward pivots? I can do backwards ones no problem. I'd love a PM if you don't want to thread jack.
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Old 06-12-2006, 10:28 PM
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Nicely frozen: ok, I tried out the new blades today, Coronation Aces; which are a switch from the Coronation Comets....I did a 13 revolution spin! Wasn't terribly centered but I did manage to get the revolutions up. the other spins were decent (finally!!!!!)
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Old 06-13-2006, 07:06 AM
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Nicely frozen: Skating was good - stayed at the rink until the end of the patch, an hour longer than usual, although I did take a bit of a break in the middle. In our lesson, we worked a lot on our spin - for a wonder, it was Husband who was going wrong, not me. We ran through our free dance twice to music, both times better than we've ever done it before, which is actually not saying much!

Worked a lot on my spins; it irritates me that I know what I'm doing wrong, but can't correct it. Thought I had done a 2-revolution backspin, but actually think it was a 2-revolution clockwise spin instead, which is equally okay, but not what I'd planned to do. And did get one good conventional spin, too.

Dance moves okay-ish, not quite a whole lap of them, though. Also worked on Russian stroking, plain vanilla forwards stroking and changes-of-edge. Ran through my Artistic, of course. And someone had a pupil doing Level 2 dances, so I did a Fiesta and a Dutch Waltz solo - so not as good as with Husband, but I was pleased with them, all the same.

Melting: I hear John Watts blades have gone bust.... guess what I have?! Oh well, I don't need new blades yet, and will cross that bridge when I come to it.
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Old 06-13-2006, 07:50 AM
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Melting: [/B]I hear John Watts blades have gone bust.... guess what I have?! Oh well, I don't need new blades yet, and will cross that bridge when I come to it.
Hmm... I heard that. My former coach's husband set up the John Watts business alongside the Watts family. Turns out there was a big family bust-up. However I'm confident that given time, Chris will have something else set up blades-wise. I'm not on JW blades but my daughter is and she's very due for a new pair of skates so I think she'll be having a new make of blade this time around.

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Old 06-13-2006, 11:21 AM
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Hmm... I heard that. My former coach's husband set up the John Watts business alongside the Watts family. Turns out there was a big family bust-up. However I'm confident that given time, Chris will have something else set up blades-wise. I'm not on JW blades but my daughter is and she's very due for a new pair of skates so I think she'll be having a new make of blade this time around.
I hope something like that will happen; Chris is in the USA now, of course, which must make a difference. Although the best blades still seem to be made here in the UK! I am sorry the "Freedom" blade has disappeared, though - not that I would ever be of the right sort of quality to use it, but those who were did splendid things with them!
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Old 06-13-2006, 10:42 PM
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Nicely Frozen:

The ice over at Chelsea Piers during FS. And I'm back working with my Chelsea Piers coach again. I had a wonderful time! I got lots of pictures and videos. He sees that I can clearly do the moves. He loves the speed and the edges!!!

Melting:
  • He thinks that my main obstacle for Bronze Moves is power 3's. Turnout problem again!
  • We ran out of time for 5 step mohawks!
  • My heart... when I realized that I have to leave and go back home to San Francisco the next day. I'm missing him already again. He really is a wonderful coach and I really enjoy my lessons with him when I do take one with him. (The fact that he's easy on the eyes also help too! ) But I look forward to seeing him again around Christmas.
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Old 06-14-2006, 12:14 AM
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Jazzpants,
sounds like you are making great progress on your Bronze moves. You go girl!

Melting:
spins. none of them seem to be progressing at all. Will see how they fair tomorrow in my Jump and Spin class.


Nicely Frozen:
I am finally glad to be saying good bye to the pre-bronze plateau and only 1/2rotation jumps. I am in Loop, Flip and Lutz immersion with my primary coach. I will have them very soon. We are working on Bronze MIF patterns.
5 step mohawk is my favorite. Just for fun, we even worked on brackets. Recent skating events have broadened my scope of things to come. I am enjoying learning new things!
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Old 06-14-2006, 06:49 AM
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Melting: Left foot is still bad so outside edges are painful, which severely limits what I can do comfortably. Spent lots of time circling the rink and chatting with people.

Frozen: Spins were working since I spin on the right leg. I got my sit down as far as my body will allow and it's still a couple of degrees short of the Magic 90-degree angle that Mr. Inman said is needed for it to count as a sit under IJS. Note to self: question the tech specialists I know about whether the LEVEL of the skaters is to be considered at all when calling elements.

Back to icing The Foot.
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Old 06-14-2006, 10:41 AM
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Nicely Frozen - I managed to do my left and right forward 3 turn by getting the correct body position and turning.

Melting - I cant seem to help throwing the free foot back to the ice after Ive made the turn. I have a fear of gliding backwards one leg, however I think it will come

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Old 06-14-2006, 07:38 PM
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[*]He thinks that my main obstacle for Bronze Moves is power 3's. Turnout problem again!
You have company in the "Power Three Turn Challenged Club" Jazzpants!
For me the LFO3 is easy, yet the RFO3 is difficult. Primary coach says that with that, she knows I'm jumping and spinning in the right direction. Being that you are a clockwise skater, do you find the RFO3 easier?

Today rocked!
After a parent made a complaint to rink management that the ice was not only not cut, but there was no sound system at all in the rink we are usually in ( the condensation issues I've been posting about the last few weeks). After that we were moved to the front rink, which the ice was verry nice ( ) and there was a sound system.
Now can they keep us in the front rink??
Lesson was good today.
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Old 06-15-2006, 03:24 AM
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You have company in the "Power Three Turn Challenged Club" Jazzpants!
For me the LFO3 is easy, yet the RFO3 is difficult. Primary coach says that with that, she knows I'm jumping and spinning in the right direction. Being that you are a clockwise skater, do you find the RFO3 easier?
Well, initially the RFO3 was easier for me. But since I've been practicing the LFO3's a lot, the LFO3's has NOW become my stronger side! The speed is JUST fine though... just that I don't trust myself to turn out to the correct edge w/o tripping over! (And the Stalen Island crew, particularly ISk8NYC, can attest to that.)

NYC coach gave me something to shoot for, so we'll see if that helps. Essentially it's an adjustment in arm position and a foot turnout going into the LFO3's. Nothing new really. Secondary coach mentioned about this before too. But the mindset of how to achieve it is what's new.
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Old 06-15-2006, 08:19 AM
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I remember when I had just learned power-3s on a Friday, then that Sunday they were added to a show routine! We had to do them down the long axis of the rink!!! And quickly! why me? So, they put me at the end of the line.....Anyway, if i was seen on the rehearsal ice NOT doing power 3's someone would yell across the ice for me to do them....it got to be pretty embarrassing!

I worked on those suckers every show practice. Mine are ugly...when my coach ran me through moves as a "get to know what you can do" thing, she had this look of astonishment on her face and shook her head; partly because I had the "scared rabbit" look on my face (yeah, i didn't have my show-face on)...something else to add to the list later!!!


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Old 06-15-2006, 09:37 AM
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Melting: Still a little chicken going into choctaw on one foot spin. Can do from very slow, but not from wind up (which finally has some power -- woo hoo! Ripping on the crossover!!) Also can't get more thatn two-three revolutions before I drop my right hip and step out, grrr!!! They are, however, two or three very nicely centered revolutions -- as in tracings the size of a quarter or, at their largest, a tea cup saucer. It's ok -- one day it will all click and I'll get into the spin with enough momentum and not drop my hip and, hopefully, stay as centered as I have been and I'll have a rocking scratch spin. Hopefully that one day will be soon...

Nicely frozen: Doodled around with brackets and double threes in practice before Synchro. Had fun!

And, here's the best part... We learned the Cha-Cha in Synchro! So much fun! We're doing a program with Latin music and one of the rhytms is the Cha-Cha. Coach thought it might be a good idea to learn the dance to get a feel for the rhythm. Again, so much fun!!! There's hardly anything in skating that I can say I'm the first person to "get" it, but I "got" the cha-cha right away. After 15 years of tap, you bet I can count! So I mainly worked on making the pattern the right size -- and, I'm proud to say -- I filled the rink doing it solo!!! I feel like I'm flying off the world on the LFO swing roll, but I went for it. I was so excited when the coach turned the music on, I just took off and repeated the dance non-stop for 20 minutes. And, yes, my thighs are reminding me today, LOL! Makes me wish we had ice dancing classes here. So, that's my little brag -- I get so few opportunities to do so...

Skate@Delaware -- glad your new blades are working for you!
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Old 06-15-2006, 11:45 AM
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And, here's the best part... We learned the Cha-Cha in Synchro! So much fun! We're doing a program with Latin music and one of the rhytms is the Cha-Cha.
Oh yes. My coach, who's been seriously competitive, has strongly implied that this is the first of the low level dances she finds fun in itself--and it certainly looks like she's having fun with it when we're working on it.

This has mostly been a "Nicely Frozen" week for me, with a good lesson yesterday and another scheduled for tomorrow. I've been working on the Swing Dance, and can finally take the turn at something like the proper tempo without flinching, so it looks like the Bronze dances will be in the future.

The only "melting" part is that I've got a business trip all of next week, and it's pretty iffy as to whether we'll be finishing up early enough in the evening to find any skating time. I'll take the skates anyway, though.

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Old 06-15-2006, 01:06 PM
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This picture is so awesome just want to share it

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Old 06-15-2006, 02:25 PM
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Melting: Back cross cuts, as usual. Sigh.

Nicely Frozen: Back cross-rolls now officially passable! Yaaay! Not much cop, though, if I can't do (which I can't) the cross-cuts to match.

Programme run-through okay.

Made my coach dance with me, as it was my birthday - we did a Prelim Waltz as someone had put on the music, and I managed to surprise him with how much I'd improved since we last did it! Yaaay!
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