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Old 08-27-2010, 10:06 PM
aussieskater aussieskater is offline
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So many thanks to Adrian, the mods, the posters and all for a great time and a terrific source of information.

I've been lurking at FSU for a long time now - the last couple of years, I've even paid my premium membership to access the members-only forums. I'll admit right now that if FSU is where we have to head, I'll be devastated - it's really not a terribly welcoming place (especially the Secret Sources forum).

I've seen for myself on more than one occasion some extremely b**chy remarks posted in Secret Sources about posters who may only have paid the second-top level of membership, and probably have no idea of what's being said about them inside a forum they can't access.

The cattiness is why I will not post there.

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Old 08-27-2010, 10:21 PM
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Is FSU where we're moving to?

Thank you Adrian.
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Old 08-27-2010, 10:37 PM
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goldenskate is good too--same type of forum. Very quiet, but if enough people go there it would liven up fast! Not so much snarkiness either, if that's what will keep people from FSU.
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Old 08-27-2010, 10:55 PM
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I want to echo what everyone else had said here. I'm sorry to see this place shutting down, and want to thank all of moderators for their hard work. I don't skate myself, but love to watch it on T.V. I've enjoyed reading and learning about the world of adult skating. Count me in as another person who would be willing to contribute to the continuation of this board.
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Old Yesterday, 01:47 AM
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I just posted in the parlor (essentially: nooooooooo). Just want to echo all posts here re: (((((((Adrian)))))))). Thank you for years and years of the best and warmest cyber feelings. Truly, I can't remember when I joined - it's bee so long.

And it's been wonderful.
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Old Yesterday, 02:07 AM
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Is the database going to be back upped or not? The reason I'm asking is that some of the on-ice stuff really has valuable information.


What is FSU?

(Anyone who wants to keep in touch with me can mail me first; stvoy underscore fan1 At hotmail dot com (replace underscore, at and dot with the corresponding characters and remove spaces).
It's my spam mail account: so make sure you have a catchy title.

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Old Yesterday, 06:03 AM
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Thanks Adrian.

I especially like the Canadian info here.

I also echo the thoughts of moving the Parlour over to Goldenskate instead of FSU. That place is truly nasty. Amazing what people think they are entitled to say when anonymous.
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Old Yesterday, 06:28 AM
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FSU does have a different personality, so to speak, but really, it's fine. Like others here have said, the section for skaters is much calmer and tamer. Stay out of the politically correct section, where I do think people tend to get a bit crazy, and you should find it is generally a good place. Sure, people get worked up at times over various things. But there are lots of nice folks and you'll learn who to ignore. When I broke my ankle, I got a lot of virtual hugs from people over there, too.

I'm sk8pics there, too.
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Old Yesterday, 07:05 AM
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So many thanks to Adrian, the mods, the posters and all for a great time and a terrific source of information.

I've been lurking at FSU for a long time now - the last couple of years, I've even paid my premium membership to access the members-only forums. I'll admit right now that if FSU is where we have to head, I'll be devastated - it's really not a terribly welcoming place (especially the Secret Sources forum).

I've seen for myself on more than one occasion some extremely b**chy remarks posted in Secret Sources about posters who may only have paid the second-top level of membership, and probably have no idea of what's being said about them inside a forum they can't access.

The cattiness is why I will not post there.
I second everything aussieskater said. I do occasionally post on FSU (I'm Bunny Hop there as well, but there's also a Bunny_Hop - which can get confusing if we're both posting in the same thread!), but mainly only in the 'Moves in the Field' section, which is the one for skaters, and then only if I'm really, really sure about what I'm talking about and know I can defend it.

For the Aussies here, don't forget there's an Australian skating forum at:
http://oziceskatecommunity.myfreeforum.org/index.php. There's not much traffic there at the moment, but maybe with a few more keen posters....

And for the Brits: http://www.skatingforum.co.uk/, which is quite busy, with mainly adult skaters, although a lot of the posters are only at SkateUK (i.e. Learn to Skate) level, rather than higher level. Having said that, a few of the higher level UK adult skaters who've posted here in the past do now post over there.
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Old Yesterday, 07:11 AM
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OK, everyone (especially the adults in On Ice) better skip on over to FSU and start posting in their Moves in the Field section! FSU is great.
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Old Yesterday, 07:57 AM
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BTW, everyone might want to clean their inboxes of sent items and such to free up space for private messages, so that the info can actually be exchanged. Just a thought.
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Old Yesterday, 08:16 AM
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You can always start your own forum.
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Old Yesterday, 08:30 AM
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You can always start your own forum.
We want to save all the on ice threads, because there is years' worth of good information in them.

One thought- can the on ice stuff be back-upped, and then a new forum made, and the on-ice stuff transferred to it?
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Old Yesterday, 08:52 AM
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Already a member at GoldenSkate, and I know that a few here are (it's been amusing to see a query posted here, and then the same query posted over there, and seeing the OP checking back and forth to get cross-input). GS is decent, the mods actually ban trolls and nasty jerks, and actively monitor discussions - the Lutz corner used to be more used, it's less so now, but, if the people here move THERE, it will pick up fast. There are some very good posters over there, who honestly "get" skating. I've learned a lot about CPC and all that.

Hate to see this forum go, though, it's a great place ... sigh.
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Old Yesterday, 09:29 AM
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One thought- can the on ice stuff be back-upped, and then a new forum made, and the on-ice stuff transferred to it?
My understanding of forums from my days as admin for a student forum or university and an art forum is that the problem is that they generate a lot of traffic because of the inherent nature of php scripts which puts together a page from loose pieces (each post has effectively its own page) into one page. So basically every time you click a link you're sending in a request for information which needs to be processed, put together, and then sent out.

This is also what makes a forum expensive to own/run.

If the pages were transferred into html they would be very low in traffic and you could possibly host them over a few free websites however, I'm not sure if there are any automated tools that allow to transfer the php pages into html pages. I do know a site owner/admin has the option to create a database backup, and these databases tend to run in the hundreds of megs, but they're usually stored on the same server as the site, although one can often download them if one wants. In theory, it's possible to recover a forum from one of those databases but I have never had to do this myself so I've no idea how it works.

If pTPTB are considering this option I"m voting in favour of only backing up on Ice. That's where the most valuable information is and that's what is really worth saving. Everything else is just going to take up space that's not available on free sites.
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Old Yesterday, 09:34 AM
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Is the database going to be back upped or not? The reason I'm asking is that some of the on-ice stuff really has valuable information.
Sadly, no ...

(with a database and vbulletin file backup, we could have migrated to another host)
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Old Yesterday, 09:45 AM
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We can of course just back up by hand. I made about a year ago a backup this way - I've NO idea where it is now, but it's probably somewhere in my hundreds of gigs of backups so if I look long enough I can prolly find it - by just doing a search for example for "camel spin", then opening the first 20 threads of those or so, pressing CTRL A, CTRL C, going into word pressing CTRL V, and then saving them thematically. I even edited the backup at the time to contain only comments on improving technique and not discussions about who is having what problems with their spin, boots, etc. Ended up with a manual of about 60 pages per spin that way.

It's a lot lot lot of work though

I'm tempted to on monday go to the university library at 8 (I've a very very slow connection at home) and just see how much I can back up on jumps before classes.
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Old Yesterday, 10:13 AM
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I am so sorry to see this site go. This place has been an invaluable reference for me from when I first posted trying to figure out my jump and spin direction until now struggling on silver moves. I will follow the group but wanted to say Thank you to Adrian and to ISK8NY and to all the posters who have given me advice and laughter throughout the years.

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Old Yesterday, 10:43 AM
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Artemis is a typical canadian: well-educated, polite and witty. She's been a great contributor on both this site and FSU. Today, she posts a polite little "are we welcome?" thread on FSU and gets "suck it" as a response. It's so bizarre for someone to bust her chops for being polite, lol.

On FSU, people like to be outrageous just for the sake of being outrageous, or controversial, or argumentative. It's part of the culture and you just have to grow a thicker skin. Skittl's right: the Moves in the Field forum for skaters on FSU is less intense than the rest of the board.

I just read Artemis' post on FSU and was embarrassed for most of the rest of the posters. You really have to consider the source.

ADRIAN, you know you are still a :rockstar: I've told you this in person and I still mean it. Your websites were cutting edge; we appreciate everything you've brought to figure skating discussions throughout the years.

ps: I'm Meredith on FSU as well.
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Old Yesterday, 10:53 AM
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Already a member at GoldenSkate, and I know that a few here are (it's been amusing to see a query posted here, and then the same query posted over there, and seeing the OP checking back and forth to get cross-input). GS is decent, the mods actually ban trolls and nasty jerks, and actively monitor discussions - the Lutz corner used to be more used, it's less so now, but, if the people here move THERE, it will pick up fast. There are some very good posters over there, who honestly "get" skating. I've learned a lot about CPC and all that.

Hate to see this forum go, though, it's a great place ... sigh.
Without having been there, I vote for GoldenSkate. Can we possibly get a consensus here on where to regroup before it's too late?
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Old Yesterday, 12:17 PM
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Can we possibly get a consensus here on where to regroup before it's too late?
I agree; we're all going to end up at different forums, and not enough of us at the same forum to keep it lively.

I like FSU, Goldenskate is a bit slow, the IceNetwork one is nice too, though also slow. They are all slower than skatingforums.

IceNetwork has "On the Ice," "Adult Skating," "Synchro," and "Competition Results" plus a few others. So similar to skatingforums. But hardly anyone is active there.

FSU only has the one on-ice forum, though it seems to be a bit more occupied. The on-ice part is pretty friendly.

Goldenskate has the Lutz corner, but that's the only on ice thread. The rest is fan based.

Should somebody start a poll and have everybody vote, and the majority wins, with all of us agreeing to move to that forum? Or do we not have time?

If we do end up not having decided before skatingforums goes, then we should lurk around on those forums until we figure out where most of us went.

I've registered at Goldenskate and FSU as Sierra.
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Old Yesterday, 12:45 PM
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Possible New Home

Removed by OP.

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Old Yesterday, 12:56 PM
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Thanks Jim - I just got in and replied to your message. Sorry I didn't think of it this morning.



For a consensus tally, I've added a poll to this thread: http://www.skatingforums.com/showthread.php?t=31380
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Old Yesterday, 01:16 PM
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This forum has been great, and I'll be sorry to see it end.
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Old Yesterday, 02:50 PM
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For those of you that would like to try to keep the spirit going we can go to a new home:

http://skatingforums.com/showthread.php?t=31383
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