Excuse me sir, but are you telling me that I'm busting my a@# on the camel for nothing????
Maybe if you go to Adult Easterns (Carolina Adult Classic) in February, I can consider a reprive!

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Hiss!!!!!!! :
Coach was being really evil today!!!

Meow:
Dance lesson,had alot of fun
~Cutie

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Hiss I skipped out on the 2 hour public session today to spend time with my best friend and her baby

Meow I don't feel much in the way of "regret". I know I can use the practice but I also feel as if I deserve a little bit of a break. I'll be back on the ice on Thursday night fresh and ready to attack that loop jump with a clear mind (and nicely sharpened skates!)

Meow - we are reprieved from the synchro comp in two weeks - coach has seen sense and decided that there's no way we can be ready for it. (Phew.) Now we're just working in a much more relaxed fashion towards the next one.

Hiss - Coach this morning wants my mohawks tidied up. (Heck - I've only just learned how to do them...) I can now manage CCW and CW closed ones and CCW ones open. (CW ones open have me beaten right now, and that's odd because I'm a lefty.)

Now he's decided that for the open mohawks, he wants the free foot to remain at the heel of the skating foot after the turn/change, rather than extending the leg behind me. I've drilled the leg extension for so long now that I'm finding it almost impossible not to do it!! Anyone got any hints?

Nah, it's a bit of a let down in real life, he doesn't even drink that much! So much for the hellraiser

John

I guess you'll just have to come do the WFSC New Years Adult Invitational ??? PS JetBlue flies directly into Dulles airport from Oakland, and Dulles is 15-20 minutes from the rink.... actually it's 15-20 minutes from 2 different rinks.

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Q: How many coaches does it take to fix Jen's Dance Intro-3 Problems
A: 5 and counting...

But Stephen - we aren't going to Oberstdorf in 2006! Hope you will come to Tallinn (which we are planning on entering) or even the Mountain Cup as a "warm-up".

So today.

Hiss, spit, scratch, claws out and tail fluffed right up: Got up at 06:00 and were at the rink by 07:30, only to find that the room where we keep our skates was locked, and no-one had the key. The "secret" back entrance was also locked, so there were five of us sitting around for an hour until my coach, who did have a key, came in. We knew one of the coaches, who is usually in fairly early, wasn't going to be there, but we hadn't expected the other "early bird" not to be in (obviously his normal pupil wasn't around), and that the early-morning duty manager had gone on holiday and nobody else had a key. I rang our coach, but he had to wait for his pupil, whom he picks up on Wednesdays, to get dressed! Had I rung him before he got to her house, he'd have come by the rink first....

So we only had 10 minutes or so to practice by the time he finally did arrive and opened the door for us.

Mew: Because the rink was very quiet, we were able to use the music as much as we wanted - we really only had time to run through both compulsory dances once each, and our free dance once, and there was so much I really wanted to work on, so-o-o-o frustrating! But we did a really good Golden Skaters' Waltz. Our Riverside Rhumba wasn't so good, largely because we started the first end pattern in just the wrong place and ran out of rink - which won't, I hope, happen on Saturday as it's an Olympic-width rink. The Free Dance was okay, but only okay - the spin could have been a lot better, and the lift at the end nearly didn't happen.

Once Husband had rushed off, mooing that he was going to miss his train (which was probably bang on time, for once, since he was a little late!), it was time for my lesson. Most things went well, except one-beat edges, and I now have to do a variation of Jen's coach's Evil Eights to help me with the under-push on fast runs. Back cross-cuts better than I've ever done them, but still not good. Coach gave me a correction on the cross-rolls which has transformed them. I won't say they're passable yet, because they aren't, but one day....

Purr: For some extraordinary reason, I can suddenly skate backwards six times faster than I've ever been able to before! Weird, or what?

Hiss: But I still can't do a 3-turn at speed on my own yet..... even though I can do one without thinking about it with a partner. Weird, or what?

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Jazzpants,
That is a novel idea, you could not only meet NoVa, but THE WHOLE GANG!!!
If this is a idea, I'd make it a point to be there!

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Everybody knows that I don't usually jump in to defend Nova (hey, he's a big boy and can stand up for himself), but give him a break on this one (AN 2006). Most of us are limited in both vacation time and disposable income, so we have to make choices about when/where to compete. He *went* to nationals this year and skated very well, so if he wants to try a different challenge next year, good for him!

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Frank, that's too many jump combos! You can only have three combos or sequences, so you'll have to make one of those a solo jump.

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Hey Loops,

I've been wondering about that as well. I wasn't sure if the split/axel would be considered a sequence since the split is a half-jump and I wasn't sure how half-jumps apply to the combination rule. I'll revisit this with my coaches and we'll figure it out.

Thanks!

Frank

I thought that the only half jump that counted was the half-loop; so the split/axel would be considered an axel with an unusual entrance.

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In COP it would count as an unusual entrance to the jump, but in the standard scoring system a split jump is part of a sequence. As are half loops, bunny hops, falling leaves, etc. I don't have a rulebook handy (paging skaternum) but anything with jumps/hops/turns that maintains a continuous rhythm is considered a jump sequence.

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I know... don't worry! I won't speak for Terri, but I can say for my part, I was joking! (I know... hard to tell from the tone of the post. I apologize...)

NoVa, if I make it thru my tests and make it to AN 2006 and you make it to Dallas, I look forward to seeing you. If either of us don't make it to Dallas, then it's cool with me. You know me... I don't pressure you to do something. I WILL ASK you to do something. (BIG difference!!!!) But I do look forward to meeting you someday though...

KEWL???

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Thank you for the support, you guys!!!

Hiss:

Not a good lesson today. I went over moves with my SECONDARY coach this time (after a long absence...) and she was NOT happy about it. I was so tempted to just drop out of the test session!!!

Power 3's were too slow for her. I need to work on back crossovers BADLY!

Meow:

Had a talk on the phone with Jay about it... he said "Okay, talk to the test chair and try to change the test session. If you can't, then just take the test for experience. But whatever you do, do NOT lose your money by NOT showing up for the test!!! And besides, you'll need to know what they're looking for as far as the new test emphasis is concerned so you'll at least get good feedback on how you're progressing now and what you need to work on to pass this test now."

So... I'm probably gonna go in and test anyway with the understanding that I'll probably not pass again, but I have nothing to lose and everything to gain from this test session. Both coaches did note that I've improved a lot this year from last year. So we'll see how much improvement I've made this year, I guess...

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Thank you for the support, you guys!!!

Hmm, this needs clarification.
According to USFS:
-Note: Walley jumps and inside Axels, along with half-turn jumps such as half loop, split jump, stag jump and falling leaf, are not considered to be jump elements in the new well-balanced program rules and are not limited. These jumps are referred to in this clarification as “Unclassified Jumps.” Be advised that these Unclassified Jumps will not increase a skater’s technical merit mark. Judges will evaluate such Unclassified Jumps as transitions/skating movements. The inside axel jump will not fulfill the
requirement for an “axel type jump.”

The way I read this is that since the split jump is done first--before a "true" jump--it is considered choreography.
Again, it would be nice to get a clarification on this.

But interestingly:
-A one-foot Axel is considered an Axel jump element, although it is not specifically listed. It is an exception to the rule ... and will be counted as fulfilling the requirement of an “Axel type jump”, as well as a jump element.

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Was this your last practice/lesson? Maybe it's a GOOD sign... that says that everything will work good for the test!!!

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Q: How many coaches does it take to fix Jen's Dance Intro-3 Problems
A: 5 and counting...

Yes. All this went down just 3 hours ago. I still have one more lesson with the primary coach before the test.

In any case, I'm just going to go into the test to see how much more work do I need to do to pass this test and what I would have to work on... (i.e. I'll be a guinea pig for the new test system...)

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Thank you for the support, you guys!!!

Jazz,
A good way to work on back crossovers is to do them with a partner. This gets you aligned properly and really thinking about the timing. I do this with some of the kids I teach and it helps.

Hey, Jazz, I agree with jenlyon on this. After all the work you've done, you should be fine. It's normal to have bad practices before a test - the Tues before I took Pre-Bronze MIF and FS (test was on a Sun), I fell splat on my right knee on forward crossovers and I didn't practice jumps until Sun morning before the test, and my alt 3's were terrible - feet down and everything - in my lesson that Thurs. But I passed - OK, it was a close call, but I did it. Just think about all the good practices you've had, especially in the public session with kids flying all around. You'll be fine!

Actually, I practiced earlier today and had some really bad moves run-throughs. On my back crossovers, I felt like my legs had a mind of their own! And I won't get into the forward crossovers, or the BO to FO turn in the 5-step.

I'm not testing yet, but my coach has instructed me in the ways of forward power 3 turns (I assume you mean these and not power 3's)

I almost end up gaining speed towards the end of the length of the ice because of the power push - REALLY give it everything you've got on that push and then make the crossover into the step forward as smooth as glass - no toe pick scraping since this will slow you down. My problem is on the step forward - I tend to have my weight a little forward and thus the dreaded SCRAPE. Keep your weight nice and even over the middle of your blade and if you do this with a GOOD power push you should be coasting by the middle/end of your power three turns..and correct me if I'm wrong, but generating MORE power towards the end is better than starting out strong and fizzling out.

Good luck!

I'm not sure what you mean by this. Jazzpants is talking about the power 3-turns on the bronze moves in the field test. They are forward outside 3-turns with a crossover in between. Also the bane of my existance on that test!

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Regarding the sequence/unusual entrance thing: I found this on the USFS website, in the training manual for the new judging system:

A jump sequence may consist of any number of jumps “listed” in the scale of values. The jumps may have any number of revolutions permitted for that competitive level linked by hops, mazurkas, jumps not listed in the scale of values (i.e., 1/2 jumps, walleys, inside Axels) and/or turns immediately following each other. There cannot be more than a total of one revolution
(360 degrees) with the foot on the ice during the course of the entire sequence. The sequence must have constant rhythm and there can be no crossovers or stroking during the sequence. A jump “sequence” consisting of one “listed” jump together with an “unlisted” jump or jumps counts as an individual jump element and not as a jump sequence.

However, these new descriptions (and revised well-balanced program requirements) are specified for juvenile-senior levels only and no corresponding information has been published for adults.

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I thought there were Foward power three turns, and then also power 3's, power 3's being back3turn/mowhawk/repeat. Like I said I'm not testing and this is just what I'm told from kids at the rink so I could be confused.

But ISU uses this description of a jump sequence:
"A jump sequence consists of a minimum of two jumps connected with [emphasis added] small quick steps, unclassified jumps such as half-loop, split jump, mazurka, etc., hops and/or turns. The sequence should be continuous in a rhythm to make it apparent where the sequence begins and ends."

Since the item in question is split/axel, that does not meet the requirement of 2 "jumps" (as they define it) being linked. I presume that USFS follows the same definition?
I still think that a sole non-listed jump put at the beginning of the jump pass does not make it a sequence.

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