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Old 02-07-2008, 05:03 PM
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Interpretive 1 to 4
Single rotation jumps, any spins ,any uncapured moves

In fs you MUST have elements from level but can have anything from lower. One reason some think ISI is harder. You must have dance steps ect the way its taught. Ie ISI 5 has to have axel, but also can have waltz from ISI 1

Artistic...... No required moves.

Spotlight.. 1 to 4 can have anything in 1 to 4
5 to 10 same...

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Old 02-07-2008, 10:35 PM
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I'm thinking next time I compete ISI, I will be doing everything BUT freestyle. I have done the dance step correctly maybe 3 times in my life, twice in competition, once for the test. I hate it, I end up doing some sort of Irish jig during the transition from outside 3s to the inside 3s. It's all that step in front, step back.

I did synchro for years, have competed dance and am working on silver MIF, and still can't get the hang of the darn step...
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Old 02-08-2008, 06:38 AM
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From someone who can't pass ISI 3 because of that stupid change foot spin it is 3-3-3. I realize it is now a moot point but just thought I'd add that in there.
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Old 02-08-2008, 06:52 AM
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ISI interpretive...oh my...I did that once and only once. I figured it would be my best event because how can you be nervous about something you have to improv? I heard the music and in my head I knew exactly where I wanted to place everything.

So I go out there and seemed to miss every one of those spots, and I think I basically did a bunch of flailing crossovers and a poor sit spin throughout the entire thing, HAHA.

Oof.

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Old 02-08-2008, 07:36 AM
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ISI interpretive...oh my...I did that once and only once. I figured it would be my best event because how can you be nervous about something you have to improv? I heard the music and in my head I knew exactly where I wanted to place everything.

So I go out there and seemed to miss every one of those spots, and I think I basically did a bunch of flailing crossovers and a poor sit spin throughout the entire thing, HAHA.

Oof.

Oh no!

But flailing crossovers and a poor scratch spin was my plan anyway LOL
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Old 02-08-2008, 08:33 AM
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Well, technically YOUR coach passed me out of ISI 1 without a waltz jump because "you know HOW to do it," LOL! So if I competed freestyle, I would compete Freestyle 2 and just not include a waltz jump... I have the half-walley and am closer to a half-lutz than a waltz jump. We did the dance step as part of an earlier synchro program, so that's no problem.

Who knows... I think the rink wants me to judge for the lower level kids, we'll see. I'll talk to my coach and see if she thinks me entering ANY competition is crazy, LOL! Although, if two of us sign up for interp, then they may make an adult interp and not throw you in with the kids. Last time, they selected fun music for the kids, but it would have been silly for adults to skate to it. If there were more than one adult, they might pick something slower and more dignified. I don't think nerves would play in if it were just you and me doing interp -- I truly couldn't care less if you wipe the ice with me bum

The elements for the cumplusory for Free 2 for this competition are 1/2 lutz, 1 foot spin, and ballet jump. As far as I know, you can create whatever you want to do them in a minute without music.

Last competition, Carolyn was the only adult who actually competed (at Free 2, she'll move up to Free 3), so if they break you out into adult events, you'll likely be competing against the book. Unless we can convince Jskater49 or Clarice to come our way... or if I choose to compete so that you can beat a person instead of the book, hehe...
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Old 02-08-2008, 08:41 AM
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You know, since I can't practice jumps but I can practice spins I might actually enter ISI 3 rather than 2- I'm more likely to eek out a bad combo spin than learn a half toe walley when I can't practice jumps. Plus I'm more comfortable with my salchow and toe loop than my half flip, and if Caroline is in that event it would be more fun than competiting against a book or a kid who will be a million years better than me- and if they don't seperate adults from kids, at least were in it together! I need to find music though and learn the dance steps (which I will probably completely mess up anyway, but who cares- I know I'm not going to win anything.)

You should totally do interp! That would be way more fun than competiting against the kids- and Burton told me that only the musical interpretation and choreography are scored- not the technical elements, so you'd probably kick my butt!

Is your ISI 1 test registered- or is it "passed" like my USFSA Freestyle 3 is (I passed on a pity backspin that I can't even do anymore)? You know, they just told you you passed it at the end of the session? Because if it's not registered, you could pretend it never happened
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Old 02-08-2008, 08:44 AM
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Unless we can convince Jskater49 or Clarice to come our way... or if I choose to compete so that you can beat a person instead of the book, hehe...
I wish I could! EVERY competition this year conflicts with my "other life" as a musician. I have a recital and then a concert the Saturday of this one. I'm not an ISI member, either, so that would have to be taken care of. I'm Adult Silver, so I'd have to compete FS4.

I had Brianna send me the announcement because I'd like to do some ISI synchro competitions with our Open Adult team and want to find out what we'd need to do to make that possible. We won't have a program ready in time for this competition, though, even if I didn't have scheduling problems. If the adult synchro is on Sunday, though, I'd try to get some of us to road trip out to watch! You guys should consider coming to our competition in June - we'd love to meet another adult team!
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Old 02-08-2008, 08:47 AM
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Clarice -- If we decide to field a team for ISI Worlds in July, we might use your competition in June as a warm-up -- I wonder if Brianna has thought of that... Or you could just come join our team, hehe!

Jessi -- I'd truly RATHER skate 2 than 1 -- I'll avoid that waltz jump at all costs...
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Old 02-08-2008, 08:49 AM
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I wish I could! EVERY competition this year conflicts with my "other life" as a musician. I have a recital and then a concert the Saturday of this one. I'm not an ISI member, either, so that would have to be taken care of. I'm Adult Silver, so I'd have to compete FS4.

I had Brianna send me the announcement because I'd like to do some ISI synchro competitions with our Open Adult team and want to find out what we'd need to do to make that possible. We won't have a program ready in time for this competition, though, even if I didn't have scheduling problems. If the adult synchro is on Sunday, though, I'd try to get some of us to road trip out to watch! You guys should consider coming to our competition in June - we'd love to meet another adult team!

You know what's crazy- our team might not even be competing! I don't think it's decided yet, but there were some scheduling conflicts. (And we'll have just gotten back from competition 2 weeks earlier)

It seems like such a shame because it's not expensive and at our rink and it's another chance to try out the program. Most of the team also didn't think there would be another team, but I was thinking yours might be there- if you all don't have a program ready, then it's not as strange for us to not be competiting- I don't think many on the team wanted to compete against the book.
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Old 02-08-2008, 08:51 AM
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[QUOTE=quarkiki2;354044]Clarice -- If we decide to field a team for ISI Worlds in July, we might use your competition in June as a warm-up -- I wonder if Brianna has thought of that... Or you could just come join our team, hehe! [quote]



Even if we don't skate worlds I think we should try to convince Brianna to take us to their competition- it's another excuse to skate the programs we spend so much time working on! (Plus I can't go to World's...)

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Jessi -- I'd truly RATHER skate 2 than 1 -- I'll avoid that waltz jump at all costs...
Good thing you passed then! So have I convinced you to enter interp? It would be more fun with a buddy...
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Old 02-08-2008, 08:55 AM
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Oh, lord... I suppose I'll enter interp. Maybe we can give Burton a few ideas for music for an adult interp -- funny fast songs are NOT a good idea...
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Old 02-08-2008, 08:58 AM
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Oh, lord... I suppose I'll enter interp. Maybe we can give Burton a few ideas for music for an adult interp -- funny fast songs are NOT a good idea...
You keep your mouth shut! I'd rather skate to a campy (not too) fast song than a "you better skate good because this is slow and graceful" song!

LOL- nah, slow is good- we should put the mind in his head to seperate adults and kids. Maybe we can convince Caroline to enter too!
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Old 02-08-2008, 09:01 AM
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Yeah -- good luck on that one -- she dislikes the artistic part of skating.

Although, this seems like something Candice might do -- and cream both of us...
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Old 02-08-2008, 09:02 AM
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Yeah -- good luck on that one -- she dislikes the artistic part of skating.

Although, this seems like something Candice might do -- and cream both of us...

good point about Candice- we should convince HER to do it- then there is no reason at all that I should have any nerves, because I'll know I've lost! (Although I think there is a "high" interp, so I'm not sure she'd be with us.)
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Old 02-08-2008, 09:20 AM
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Okay, competition or not - we need to get these two teams together sometime, just for fun. We should put together some kind of clinic day - we could have on-ice training, and do our programs for each other. (I'm thinking we need to start an Iowa Skaters Chat Thread!)
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Old 02-08-2008, 09:55 AM
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That doesn't sound right. If you jump off a (left) back inside edge and the right toe, rotating to the left for half a revolution, you're doing a half-flip, not a half-toe walley.

Half toe walley would be right back inside edge, left toe, rotating to the left.

Or left back inside edge, right toe, rotating to the right.
Sorry - I typed the paragraph from the manual too quickly and gave Skittl part of the half toe walley and part of the half lutz descriptions, ROFLOL. So sorry - I corrected my post. Thanks for checking it - I had to get to the rink, so I didn't proofread.

That's what happens when you rely on SOMEONE else's information instead of your own rulebook.
(I should have pretended that I MEANT to mislead her, lol. But, no, it was just a rushing-to-help error.)

You can start an Iowa Skaters Chat thread here, but just be discreet so that you don't have any real-life backlash.
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Old 02-08-2008, 10:01 AM
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That's what happens when you rely on SOMEONE else's information instead of your own rulebook.

I typed the paragraph from the manual too quickly and gave Skittl part of the half toe walley and part of the half lutz descriptions, ROFLOL. So sorry - I corrected my post. Thanks for checking it - I had to get to the rink, so I didn't proofread.
The skating world is full of sabatoge!

I guess I'm starting to know my jumps better, because I was thinking it kind of sounded a little like a half lutz- which apparently it was a little of!

Thanks for the correction- I still plan on having my coach teach it to me, but it's good to have an idea of what it's supposed to be.

Do you know how long it takes ISI to ship rulebooks? I'm not sure if I'd get it in enough time to bother, or if I should just rely on my coach once I start lessons again.
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Old 02-08-2008, 10:07 AM
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Do you know how long it takes ISI to ship rulebooks? I'm not sure if I'd get it in enough time to bother, or if I should just rely on my coach once I start lessons again.
I won't even go into it, but I buy my manuals from them at district competitions or coaches' seminars. Last time I ordered a publication by mail, it took about a week to reach me - probably be faster if you called them directly to order.
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Old 02-08-2008, 10:16 AM
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I won't even go into it, but I buy my manuals from them at district competitions or coaches' seminars. Last time I ordered a publication by mail, it took about a week to reach me - probably be faster if you called them directly to order.
A week sounds good- I'll call today, because all of the different events are really confusing me!
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Old 02-09-2008, 08:16 AM
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I won't even go into it, but I buy my manuals from them at district competitions or coaches' seminars. Last time I ordered a publication by mail, it took about a week to reach me - probably be faster if you called them directly to order.
The manual reached me faster than my new card! less than a week, which was really surprising!

One thing I will say about ISI competitions-it seems to me, the higher the level, the more the judges pay attention to the dance steps and expect more out of them. That doesn't mean they ignore everything else, but from ISI3 and up, the ones that place 3rd-1st seem to have polish and flow to theirs. Just an observation.

If i could have gotten my change-foot I'd be at ISI3.......oh well! at least I have more time to work on those back 3's!
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Old 02-09-2008, 08:21 AM
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You're correct, S@D - the strength and power of sequences was emphasized a great deal at the instructor seminars - the judges are looking for the edge rips and clean turns. When you compare it to the USFSA crossovers*, that makes sense.

The ISI moved some of the step sequences around within FS6 - 8, so if anyone has an old rulebook, they will need update or replace it to get the current rules. (Updates are on their site, but I'm not sure where anymore. Check the Reference Links thread - I might have saved the links there.)

* ETA: I meant "crossovers" as in changing from one level in ISI to another level in USFSA, not the skating crossovers.
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Old 02-09-2008, 08:26 AM
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You're correct, S@D - the strength and power of sequences was emphasized a great deal at the instructor seminars - the judges are looking for the edge rips and clean turns. When you compare it to the USFSA crossovers, that makes sense.
Yes, this REALLY upset my daughter when she competed last year...at ISI3, because her jumps and connecting moves were great, HOWEVER her dance steps were not because she didn't practice them enough, because she believed her jumps would score her higher.
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