Here you are expected to keep your upper body still and arms neutral.

j

That's how I was taught as well. Same with chasses. It took quite a bit of work but now that is the one thing I get good comments on. Forward that is, I'm still working on that going backwards.

j

Which one is this? LFO but right arm forward, left arm back to start but switch to left arm forward, right arm back after the roll? (Sorry! I'm NOT an ice dancer... so I probably wouldn't know what is supposed to be right or wrong. I just go with what my coaches tell me to do. )

We did a pass under switch on the arm. That's all I remembered. (I wish I had a video to show what I was doing... I'm probably not making sense here.)

The focus was on ankle bend and getting the GROWL off the edge on the swing roll. Can't say I'm getting them yet, since I'm too busy trying to get the arms in the right spot.

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11-04-2006: Shredded "Pre-Bronze FS for Life" Club Membership card!!!
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Thank you for the support, you guys!!!

This is for yesterday:

Wonderland: Two weak little back scratch spins; centered but totally dug-in.

Edges took some getting used to, esp. the back edges. Managed a decent patterns.

Did several good FO brackets. A bit flat after the turn, but not too bad.

Blizzard:
Threes-on-the-line took some thought, but were recognizable.

Waltz-Toe Loop was mediocre.

Forward spins were awful. Couldn't get into the sit spin gracefully or hold it for long.

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Winter Wonderland - I found a new security on my takeoff edge for waltz and salchow. They take off now with a snap and a lift I never had before. Wheeeeee - it's like flying. I've been working on toe loops in series, three or four at a go, and it's helped me get a good rhythm for them.

Blizzard. Spins, as always. Actually, they are getting better, but it is soooooo slooowwwww.

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It's all about the dress!

Curious? How can you do Brackets when you say you're struggling with 3s on a line? Man, if I could do brackets, I'd ditch the 3s and put brackets in my programs because they'd boost my PCS score. You're so lucky.

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I am a nomadic adult skater who is a member of Windsor FSC (Skate Windsor) WOS SC again since Sept. 1st, 2008.

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Blizzard: Still have that sinuse headache with the bloody nose. It's still making me feel nauseated.
So I phoned my coach and told him that I was not feeling well and skipped skating today even though yesterday it was the first time that I had rotated and landed a lutz since 2005 even with the slight touch down. Funny that I am just starting to get back what I had before my 2005 work injuries, but now my sinuses are really bad. There's got to be a way to stop my sinuses from drying out, bleeding and then getting infected? Anyone know? Help?!?!

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"It's not age that determines but the heart." "Skating is not just a sport for the young but it's a passion for the soul of the young at heart." Brigitte Laskowski

I am a nomadic adult skater who is a member of Windsor FSC (Skate Windsor) WOS SC again since Sept. 1st, 2008.

http://eastcastlemusic.tripod.com

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FWIW: I have Grape Kool-Aid PURPLE colored Harlick boots the last 3-4 years, inspired by TashaKat's beautiful purple Harlick boots. I wear OTB tights when I test or compete. Just a single pair would do. It really doesn't show much (except for the heels, this is when I usually break my tights... having to stretch them to fit under the boots!!! )

If you live anywhere near a boot manufacturer (like I do with Harlick... and SP Teris too for that matter! ) do NOT go into the tannery room!!! That was my downfall into getting custom weird color boots!!! And yes, they can order the color type that you want if they don't have them on hand... but it will take time (2-3 months!) to make them!

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11-04-2006: Shredded "Pre-Bronze FS for Life" Club Membership card!!!
Silver Moves is the next "Mission Impossible"
(Dare I try for Championship Adult Gold someday???)

Thank you for the support, you guys!!!

I haven't been posting at all lately! For no real reason except I haven't been practicing enough (bad skater! Bad!)

Winter wonderland: For Thursday a.m. anyway, the flip was back! It was as slow as it can get but it was a flip, which hasn't happened in forever. I did 6 or 7 and was thrilled. So, forget speed for now, I need the muscle memory back. Maybe now I won't forgo easterns after all...(I'd decided not to bother if I didn't even have a flip, I was too mad at myself!)

Blizzard: Camel has gone to the desert. No lutz. I don't practice enough - expenses related to new dog have eaten up some skating money. Buying powerball ticket.

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Skate __
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(lowering the bar for 2010 as I haven't skated in a year)

I have an ultrasonic humidifier, it cranks out the mist and makes almost no noise. I now sleep in a tropical rainforest climate all winter, and it does wonders.

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It's all about the dress!

Are your coaches dancers? Because my freestyle coach was having us do Swing Rolls in our Moves class and she wanted me to switch arms like that - which is what you do for edges on moves or even figures...but not in dance and she just didn't know that. But since you are doing them in a freestyle program...you can do whatever you want (or they want) with your arms. If it was dance, you would not switch your arms. Because think about it - if you were with a partner holding arms, you wouldn't be switching arms!

j

I second the humidifier idea for the dryness, but for the infections, and the nausea, try a neti pot. The nausea comes from a post nasal drip fueled by the full sinuses, and the neti pot treatment helps clear the sinuses.

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In the case of this coach, he's a FS MITF guy. That said, he has done ice dancing before. But I doubt that he's training me with the intent of having me becoming an ice dancer... more with the intent that I would get "better edges" (or in my case, actually skate ON A EDGE!!! )

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11-04-2006: Shredded "Pre-Bronze FS for Life" Club Membership card!!!
Silver Moves is the next "Mission Impossible"
(Dare I try for Championship Adult Gold someday???)

Thank you for the support, you guys!!!

Winter Wonderland
-Started working on Intermediate moves today! I haven't passed Juv yet, but they're just about test-ready, and I have another month until I actually test them (I was supposed to test tomorrow, but the session got canceled), so we started Intermediate. Everything went quite smoothly. Before the power circles, my coach said that those would probably be a problem move for me, then I did them, and she said they were actually quite good. But I didn't do my bad side because the underpush hurt my ankle too badly. The power 3s went better than I expected. Double 3s are actually kind of fun! Brackets started out rough, but she made a few corrections and they were immediately better.
-My moves coach gave me what I consider a great compliment when we were doing the brackets. She told me that she thinks I would have been really good at figures.
-Double lutzes were pretty solid today. I think I landed about 90% of them, and they were on a GOOD outside edge--no flutzing.
-At the end of the session, I decided to mess around with Russian splits and was pretty happy with what I could see in the glass.
-I think my spiral has gotten a good six inches higher in the past two weeks or so I've been working really hard on it, so it's nice to see improvement. My inside edge spiral has much better extension than my outside--isn't outside easier for most people?

Blizzard
-Group practice for the Christmas show was pretty iffy. There are so many people in it that I'm afraid someone's going to end up getting kicked during the split jumps or the camel spins. I also lost my temper a bit with one of the other skaters. She was being rude and bossy, and it was very much unappreciated. The other skaters were getting mad, but I snapped because she was being particularly rude towards me. She's a bit of a...diva.
-My ending spin for my solo program is not totally consistent. It's supposed to be layback lowered into broken leg, but I can't always get down into the broken leg without losing my center.
-My skates are still killing me. I'm hoping that my new boots will be in this weekend, but I guess I'll still have to skate in my current boots next week, because I don't think I can break them in in time for the Christmas show. Although, my current ones are so stiff and cause me so much pain, it might be worth it to just switch now. I wish I had two pairs of blades!

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Either a neti pot or one of those sinus rinse kits...it contains a squeeze bottle (one-way flow) and solution mix that you mix with warm sterile water (i buy it from the drug store). So far, it has worked for me on reducing my allergies and I haven't gotten a bad cold this season (knock wood). I also run an ultrasonic humidifier in my house to put moisture back into the air.

This is for thursday:
Winter Wonderland: had the whole session to myself!!!! It was great because i needed to work on moves: waltz-8 and 3-turn pattern. Being able to actually see where I'm messing up is a good tool. For some reason I'm overrotating my salchow by 1/4 -not sure what is up with that.

Worked on actually kicking-thru on my waltz jump and actually managed to do so on half of them

Blizzard: Could not backspin worth anything, and my loop was inconsistent-either tapping down with the other foot (oh no!!!) or only rotating 1/2 way around. Sheesh! Toe-loop is problematic as I'm not toeing in correctly. Spins were so-so.

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Ah, show skating!!! I do it for the glitter!

Indeed, but for exercises working on keeping our shoulders together, our coach likes us to do it the "Moves" way, where you start out with your skating hip and shoulder in front, and then finish with the free hip and shoulder in front. This is quite hard to do beautifully as a couple, and makes gluing your shoulders to the far end of the rink and keeping them there dead easy! But it does help our "lean" and our edges.

My coach is not alone - one coach I know (at various camps I've been to) requires you to do laps of forward outside swing rolls alternating with-body and counter-body as warm-up; also circles of forward crossovers or progressive runs alternating your hips and shoulders. She also requires you to drop your arms when changing your shoulders "otherwise you will flap like so many birds". I think she saw Husband coming......

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Ice dancers have lovely big curves!

blizzard.....skated at club today and it was bleh. I fell on a LFO 3-turn (sort of un-did the massage I had last night)...then I fell on a toe-loop...had to dodge countless people working on the holiday show...nerve-racking!

left after 45 minutes because i got the shakes...not sure if it was improper breakfast or what. Decided to go home rather than take a chance that another fall would result in a 911 call. Plus, I was cold.

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Ah, show skating!!! I do it for the glitter!

Wonderland: None
Blizzard Back on the ice for the first time since surgery. In two weeks my feet and shoulders had forgotten mohawk timing. My FO3 were scary at the beginning, but workmanlike by the end of the session. I popped right into back crossovers, so at least two hours of general anesthesia hadn't killed them.
Coach had me work on forward edges--I'm still respectable--and introduced me to something I'd never done before. FO3, then there's a sort of mohawk thingy, then you're on the other foot doing a FO3. Is this the 3's on a line mentioned earlier? Anyway, my brain got all confused--boot dyslexia I suppose. Also Chassee's.
I was exhausted after 45 min, went home, nap.

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On Falling: '...it doesn't matter, it's what you do AFTER you fall that's more important' ISK8NYC

This is yesterday (Fri) and today (Sat)

Blizzard:

Stupid $(#(@(I@*@!*!*#@)(#$ axels. They have become the new bane of my existence. I hadn't worked on them in 2 weeks d/t not skating last Friday (#@!(*#$&@& hockey taking our ice), Sat I was on the ice alone, and Sun is just a dance session. So they were a major step back today from where they were a few weeks ago, then I took a nasty fall and that was the end of axels for today. So far my R arm is really sore, we'll see what other body parts hurt when I wake up tomorrow morning.

Winter Wonderland:

I'm spinning REALLY well. The past 2 days I've been centering almost every spin so well that you get to the point were it feels funny under your blade and you almost *need* to travel a tiny bit to get off of what you've already chewed up. We worked on my flying camel and sit-change-sit on my lesson yesterday, and flying camel is getting MUCH stronger with more height on the fly and faster/better rotation on the spin. Sit-change-sit was horrible ever since Buckeye basically but those magically came back yesterday. My coach and I worked on the snap into the back sit position and getting a lower back sit, playing with some arm/upper body positions a bit. Did a really nice camel-sit-change sit today, and some good flying camel-forward sit-pancakes. Laybacks were ick but my back has been sore all week so I only did 2 and left it alone. I took a step back last week and spent a lot of time just on spin entry and forward/back scratch spins and I think that really helped.

Lutz-loop, flip-half loop-sal, loop, sal, and toe loop all really good today now that I'm concentrating more on bending my knees more.

Did a decent run-thru of my jr moves test, power circles and rockers really good, power pull-quick rockers good but still need more speed and choctaws today were just awful.

Dances good the past few days, too. We worked on the Tango and 14-step since I'll be competing those at ANs, they just need minor tweaking--a better toe point here, more extension there before I start adding arm movements. I also worked on the Blues, Paso, and did the Quickstep and Silver Samba for fun today, along with some other dances I already passed that people were putting on (American, Rocker, I even did a pattern of the Hickory). I *think* I fixed the inconsistency on my Paso pattern (first pattern placed well, 2nd pattern I was drifting out too much on the end pattern after the mohawk so it didn't match up placement-wise with the first pattern, and if I did a 3rd that was all sorts of off because of that).

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Blizzard again of small children, this time in today's public session. Managed to practise most things though.

Wonderland
Did a camel spin which was at least 4 revs (requirement for test), and felt good. Don't know if I'm getting my leg high enough, but at least it felt okay.
Did what felt like a good change sit, and one decent change camel.

My back spin is finally starting to come together. After 3 years of working on the darn thing, finally I am getting on the right part of my blade.

Jumps were rocking today, did some good loops, toe-loop/loops and flip/loops. Waltz/loops (test requirement) are also coming, though not good enough yet. I have a few months before the next test session, so I have time to get everything up to standard.

All in all I've had a pretty good weeked of morning public sessions. Although crowded and hectic, I've worked very hard and feel I've achieved some progress in a few things.

And now I am exhausted.

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Saved by Synchro!
I was over it, now I'm into it again !

Blizzard: Husband's salchow-loop decided to go AWOL. Then his salchow went. So did mine, but that doesn't matter as I'm not competing tonight and he is! So then he was rude about my weight and said I'd have to lose weight again before we could do throw jumps.

Wonderland: We haven't forgotten how to do either a pairs spin or a pivot spiral. We played with side-by-side spirals, too, and side-by-side spins and jumps.

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Ice dancers have lovely big curves!

Mrs R. Tell hubby that a throw is an assisted jump. The guy follows your timing of the jump, and If he's lifting you at all then he's not doing it correctly. I've seen pairs where the guy basically picks up the girl and deposits her on the other side, and it's not a throw. Your weight is not an issue! I can throw my partner now and he's much heavier than I am. We actually did this the other day, and it was lots of fun. I want to throw him into an axel.

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Winter Wonderland: My rink had its annual Christmas skating show today. The beginner level synchronized skating team I assist coach did wonderfully with their program considering it was their first time out in front of a crowd!

Winter Wonderland:

WOW!!! There is actually ROOM on my home rink for me to do spins!!!

Even MORE AMAZING... I actually started getting camels again. (Now WHY OH WHY can't I get this in front of my coaches. I mean, I got it in front of a bunch of coaches -- just not MY COACHES )

And HEY! Even my flips & lutzes are back too!

Blizzard:

Still... Not enough room for me to do my back Xover exercise. (Still too many little kids going into the middle despite the ice monitors' best efforts.)

Wonderland again:

I settled for doing the Scaffer push exercise my secondary coach gave me. I even managed to practice forward Xover in the CW direction even so I can undo public session-itis (despite the fact that this is a public session.)

Blizzard again:

I TRIED to do the swing roll exercise my choreographer gave me too, but I keep running into another skater...or 5...

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11-04-2006: Shredded "Pre-Bronze FS for Life" Club Membership card!!!
Silver Moves is the next "Mission Impossible"
(Dare I try for Championship Adult Gold someday???)

Thank you for the support, you guys!!!

That's wonderful that their nerves did not get the best (or worst) of them!

Winter Wonderland: man it was cold so I bundled up for my Sunday rink and I'm glad I did. By the time I hit the ice I was warm enough to take off my sweater. 3-turns were not so deadly and I was not shaky-I had a carb/protein snack. My warm up was good enough to keep some of the stiffness away. We worked on spins, since she wants me to keep my free leg UP-man is that hard! Of course, they were so-so until after lesson then I did two that centered.

Blizzard: &)#$&$^(#($!!!!!! BACK 3's!!!!! I fell on one and hit my elbows!!!! DANG IT!!!! She who never falls is going for some sort of new record I guess! At least I didn't hit anything major. I think I rocked sideways and scraped the side of my blade funny. I hit them again "got back on the horse" as my coach said.

Thank goodness for arnica gel, aspercreme, biofreeze, and gel ice packs and i threw them ALL on!!!! Whatever!

ps-we talked about starting work on a competition routine-probably artistic

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Ah, show skating!!! I do it for the glitter!