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Old 07-19-2009, 03:25 AM
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Can't wait to hear how you go! Fingers crossed your problems are over!
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Old 07-19-2009, 08:54 AM
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Good luck and I hope the blades are now right. It's certainly taken its toll in time and stress on you!
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Old 07-20-2009, 08:39 AM
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Finally!

So, I skated today and the blades were great!! I had more 'glide'so to speak and it is a bit of an adjustment as my new guy said but for the better. I've gotten so used to adjusting for slipping off that inside edge that it is an adjustment to have it back again. But it is much better, much,much better.

Thanks all and I've kept all of your other contacts just in case for the future!!
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Old 07-20-2009, 06:10 PM
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OH, THANK GOODNESS!!
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Old 07-22-2009, 11:11 AM
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Thanks Doubletoe, it was even b..e..t..t..e..r today. My coach does all sorts of ice dance exercises and I was actually able to like do them! I felt more confident.

Of course I can't explain the disaster of a Swing Dance I skated with him today but that is another story. He said on the end pattern where he is doing the mohawk I kind of went the 'other' way and left him so to speak. He said, it was like I was saying, "I'm done with you!! Idon't care what you are doing" So funny he is. Of course we were laughing over this. The Cha Cha was great though. No problems there.
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Old 07-22-2009, 01:09 PM
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Of course I can't explain the disaster of a Swing Dance I skated with him today but that is another story. He said on the end pattern where he is doing the mohawk I kind of went the 'other' way and left him so to speak.
Yeah, I don't think you can remotely blame that on the blades .
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Old 07-22-2009, 05:23 PM
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No I can't. But it was a very funny moment!
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Old 07-25-2009, 02:41 AM
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Watch some videos of test sessions. Most couples seperate a bit at that point, even the ones who pass, whereas the pattern appears to show they should stay together.

Seems to me that if a dance is designed right, it should be close to the way people move naturally. I took a short course for exercise (e.g., aerobics) instructors - the teacher emphasized you should choreograph for smooth transitions between moves. Maybe ice dances should be designed for easy motion too.

One architectural design approach paves no paths at first. Instead, they pave the places people wear out the grass. Likewise, patterns and tricks could be redrawn and redesigned to be the way most people actually move.
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Old 07-25-2009, 05:47 AM
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Watch some videos of test sessions. Most couples seperate a bit at that point, even the ones who pass, whereas the pattern appears to show they should stay together.
Well, the couples are in shoulder-hold at that point, so it's actually quite difficult to separate. What is awkward is getting your Mohawk to mirror-image your partner's - I know I don't yet push hard enough into it, so my Mohawk isn't quite on the right place on the ice, and we have to fudge a bit to get the RBO/LFO going straight up the rink as it should. Which, in turn, affects the placing of the LBO/RFO swing roll, and thus into the restart. Sigh.

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Old 07-25-2009, 12:20 PM
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Well, the couples are in shoulder-hold at that point, so it's actually quite difficult to separate. What is awkward is getting your Mohawk to mirror-image your partner's
Either I'm confused, or you are thinking of another dance than me. I'm thinking of the pre-bronze "Swing Dance", http://www.usfigureskating.org/conte...ng%20Dance.pdf, or with more comments (in the roller pattern), http://www.uq.net.au/~zzbarneg/sk_swdance_fox.htm, which a little birdie told me the USFSA may soon replace with something Alexei Kiliakov is writing.

If I have the right dance, the forward mohawk, steps 12-13, is not simultaneous with the other partner's backwards mohawk (if you can call it that), steps 24-25.

So why do they have to mirror image? Unless you mean the end patterns at both ends of the rink (with opposte partners doing the forwards and backwards mohawks) should match, as a matter of form.

They are hand in hand, not shoulder-held.

Anyway, I'm off-topic again.
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Old 07-25-2009, 07:12 PM
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In that first end pattern the man does the mohawk and the lady does forward 'steps' so to speak. They do seperate the shoulder hold but keep holding right hand(lady) to left hand(man). What I did on this end pattern was step 'away' from him, kind of pulling him. He said I should kind of step toward him so he can get around me to go backwards.

I stepped away from him so much that I was holding on to his fingertips!! LMAO. Ooops.
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Old 07-26-2009, 11:58 AM
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So why do they have to mirror image? Unless you mean the end patterns at both ends of the rink (with opposte partners doing the forwards and backwards mohawks) should match, as a matter of form.

They are hand in hand, not shoulder-held.

Anyway, I'm off-topic again.
That is what I meant. And I'm sorry, but here they are in shoulder-hold, and you would be failed if you did them hand-in-hand! Oh, and we do it far faster than you do in the USA - we do it to the Rocker Foxtrot music.

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Old 07-27-2009, 10:45 AM
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Seems to me that if a dance is designed right, it should be close to the way people move naturally.
Well, that would be the first thing about skating that is natural!
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