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Old 05-08-2005, 12:01 PM
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Proposed Adult MITF Requirement changes at GC...

This blog didn't mentioned anything about the Proposed Adult MITF changes. Does this mean it quietly passed with no changes?

Enquiring minds wanna know... TIA!
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Old 05-08-2005, 12:11 PM
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AH!!! Just read the other skating boards from another GC delegate. (Ironically the same person the blog mentioned suggested the age limit be lower to 18. LOL!!!)

Yeap! It quietly passed! No discussions! Nada!!! That was quick...

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Old 05-08-2005, 04:27 PM
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My only comment is that if they ever decided to take the Power 3s out of the Bronze Moves, I would take it TOMORROW!!

With that move still in there, I will probably take it NADA!

Oh well, glad they passed anyway. Could never see myself doing that Novice Move that was in the Gold test at any time, EVER!!
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Old 05-08-2005, 05:13 PM
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Could someone post what the revised tests will consist of and when the changes go in effect?

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Old 05-08-2005, 05:19 PM
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My only comment is that if they ever decided to take the Power 3s out of the Bronze Moves, I would take it TOMORROW:
I really, really wish that they would give a free move out of the Bronze MIF for those of us that had to suffer through the Alternating 3's on Pre Bronze!
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Old 05-08-2005, 06:56 PM
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I really, really wish that they would give a free move out of the Bronze MIF for those of us that had to suffer through the Alternating 3's on Pre Bronze!
Like maybe exemption from the power 3's? Or maybe reimbursement for all the ice time and lessons that were solely focused on that move?

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Could someone post what the revised tests will consist of and when the changes go in effect?
I believe the changes consist of the following:

Pre-Bronze - no alt 3's, replaced with waltz 8
Bronze - no changes
Silver - no slide chasses, replaced with power pulls
Gold - no Novice move, replaced with slide chasses

There is also a change, supposedly, in the evaluation of the moves where power is a focus. Instead of power, it is now defined as "flow and strength of edge." Of course, that doesn't mean that the judges will actualy change their criteria for passing on those moves.
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Old 05-08-2005, 08:22 PM
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there's also a new MIF added to Pre-Bronze that has a combination of FI3s and FO3s.
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Old 05-08-2005, 08:46 PM
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hi fellow skaters!!! is there a place where all the details for the new MITF are listed (esp the pre-bronze). Pleas post the link.

thanks so much and happy skating!!
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Old 05-08-2005, 08:46 PM
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Look here:

http://www.usfsa.org/content/Adult3sDiagrams.pdf
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Old 05-08-2005, 08:58 PM
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You know, I tried this "new" move last summer when I first saw it on the USFS site, and I really don't think it's any "easier" than the alternating 3s.

Anyone else try it?

What WERE they thinking???????
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Old 05-08-2005, 09:16 PM
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You know, I tried this "new" move last summer when I first saw it on the USFS site, and I really don't think it's any "easier" than the alternating 3s.

Anyone else try it?

What WERE they thinking???????
I haven't tried it yet, but checking the FO three sufficiently to hold the BI edge to the axis and then getting the Choctaw without regression seems a lot harder to me than the BO Mohawk to a FO three and stroking to a BI edge at the axis. Will try it tomorrow afternoon.
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Old 05-08-2005, 09:32 PM
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I am really glad they took the novice move off the Gold test. There was really nothing in the adult testing system that prepared you for that particular move, and it was very hard to learn properly.

The intermediate power threes around the end are a good prep for that move, but the adults never saw that one on their tests.
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Old 05-08-2005, 09:56 PM
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Old 05-09-2005, 12:32 AM
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*whew*

Having practiced those power pulls will pay off now! Man, do I hope I don't have the trouble passing Silver that I did Bronze!
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Old 05-09-2005, 09:33 AM
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Was anything passed re. crossing over from std. to adult track, so you wouldn't have to start all over w/ adult pre-bronze?
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Old 05-09-2005, 10:27 AM
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Please see my later post with information from the Adult Skating Committee regarding changes to the Adult MIF tests.

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Old 05-09-2005, 11:06 AM
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Hi philly! I hope you're doing well.

The new Adult MIF requirements/changes were passed by the USFSA's Board of Directors last October (or was it November? the press release is in the News archives section of the USFSA website). I think approval at GC was just a formality, which is maybe why there was no discussion of it and why it wasn't listed in the proposals. Jazzpants seems to have found info that suggests the changes passed - I would think an official rundown wil be posted on the USFSA website soon, so we'll wait and see.
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Old 05-09-2005, 11:21 AM
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The new Adult MIF requirements/changes were passed by the USFSA's Board of Directors last October (or was it November? the press release is in the News archives section of the USFSA website). I think approval at GC was just a formality, which is maybe why there was no discussion of it and why it wasn't listed in the proposals. Jazzpants seems to have found info that suggests the changes passed - I would think an official rundown wil be posted on the USFSA website soon, so we'll wait and see.
Anything that was passed by the Board of Directors throughout the year still has to be ratified by the GC (at least that's my understanding after having attended the meeting - a large portion of our time on Saturday was spent voting on items that had been passed by the Board of Directors already). Delegates were sent a large package of information on everything that was up for vote (and not everything is put up for discussion - there has to be a motion made). Maybe someone out there with more information about the process can shed some light for us....

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Old 05-09-2005, 11:31 AM
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Anything that was passed by the Board of Directors throughout the year still has to be ratified by the GC (at least that's my understanding after having attended the meeting - a large portion of our time on Saturday was spent voting on items that had been passed by the Board of Directors already). Delegates were sent a large package of information on everything that was up for vote (and not everything is put up for discussion - there has to be a motion made) and I didn't see anything in there about the Adult MIF changes. Maybe someone out there with more information about the process can shed some light for us....
I went to GC in 2003. As far as I know you're correct, but someone must isolate an item from the proposal for discussion/amending and voting. If no one isolates the item, it's considered that no one has objections and the item is considered passed. Perhaps some of the things you voted on Saturday were contingent on vote passing due to a by-law or something?

BTW - I'd have loved to go to GC this year, especially since I've been affected by the AN rules, but I'm no longer on my club's board of directors and they'll only send people on the board. So don't think that just because some people couldn't go doesn't mean they wouldn't want to go. You only get a vote if your club sends you, so what would be the point otherwise?
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Old 05-09-2005, 01:03 PM
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Jazzpants seems to have found info that suggests the changes passed - I would think an official rundown wil be posted on the USFSA website soon, so we'll wait and see.
I found out thru unofficial sources. (One of the delegates who went to GC posted on another board and mentioned in passing "Oh, BTW, the Adult MIF changes has passed.")

You know, I was expecting this topic to raise more noise at GC (and here on skatingforums.com) than the Age Group stuff. Weird... (Not that it matters to me anyway... I'm still training for the Bronze Moves test the same as before.)
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Old 05-09-2005, 01:19 PM
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GC and adult moves

The changes for the moves were not isolated, they were passed by the board and therefore they passed.

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Old 05-09-2005, 01:26 PM
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The changes for the moves were not isolated, they were passed by the board and therefore they passed.
Yeap! Just read it on Marie's Blog too!

Better get a new USFSA rulebook guys!
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Old 05-09-2005, 01:32 PM
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The Adult Skating Committee (i.e. Maggie Harding) has spoken (and the other delegate was correct)....the new Adult MITF requirements were ratified by the GC last weekend. They were included in a report from the Fall Board of Directors meeting (a.k.a. the "pink pages"), not the report from the most recent Board of Directors meeting (a.k.a the "green pages") or the Committee's most recent requests for action. So there you have it, straight from the Committee Chair. It's a done deal to become effective September 1.

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Old 05-09-2005, 01:41 PM
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The only thing I have seen is a note on Marie's blog (see jazzpants's link). You need to scroll down, b/c she added a note about it in the comments area.

You're right, we should wait for official confirmation from someone. As I said in the other thread, the USFSA has not done a good job of getting the info out - maybe everybody there took a vacation today?

Keep us posted on Maggie Harding's response.
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Old 05-09-2005, 03:49 PM
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I found out thru unofficial sources. (One of the delegates who went to GC posted on another board and mentioned in passing "Oh, BTW, the Adult MIF changes has passed.")
Woo hoo! I don't have to take adult moves! I've told my coach to sign me up for Pre-Bronze and Bronze freestyle for the next test session. I'm hoping to compete Silver at next year's ANs. After failing my Novice moves test twice now, I'm ready for a few easy passes.

ETA: Oh, wait, if nothing was marked urgent then I have to wait until after my 25th birthday at the end of July. I was kind of excited for Pre-Bronze.
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