Hi Loops,
Have you two tried going into it from a camel? Nova, are you on one or two feet? It is a hard spin, and I remember we spent much time ON the ice before we got it together!

Flo, for now we're working on it by itself, not as part of a combination. We can do it fine with Nova on two feet, but we're trying to get him to stay on one foot. A judge told us that it won't count in competition if he's on two feet, so...

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Ah, that's good to hear that it is hard since it doesn't look difficult. I am aiming for one-foot status (2-feet does not count in competition, as a judge told us), but am for the most part doing it on 2 feet. I can get about one rev on one foot, but my body freaks out and bails. It's very frustrating. I take much umbrage at not being able to control spins, since I consider that a strength of mine. I know this is pairs and I am only responsible for 50%, but still.

We've not tried the camel approach.

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Unison strikes again!

Maybe we should try tango camel into sit.

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That is so amazingly freaky, nay scary, that we posted at the same time with the same info!!!

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Yeah, that would be good to try since my camel/sit is so outstanding.

Nah, let's put this on the agenda--for tomorrow morning?--in place of the Pamchenko.

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NoVa, I'm right there with ya! I go to Sectionals next week and I'm signed up to skate the qualifying event for Ch. Gold...right now I wouldn't be competitive at Bronze. My coach asked me why I wasted my money on entering that event I'm only hitting 1 out of 10 axels and my lutz is now in trouble. I was ready to just drop out of the whole competition, but then I remember why I do this, to see everyone and have fun. No one died from coming in last place and my coach needs to learn to take the bad with the good...I things have been pretty good the last few years, so what if I have one bad year.

Look at it this way, we are skating poorly now so that we can peak at Nationals!

Loops and Nova (at the same time!!!),
I think since your (Nova-boy) camel is very strong, it would feel more natural for you to go from a pair camel into a sit. You would go into it from a tango camel as Loops (the girl) will go from a back camel to a back sit. I think the snap of the camel into the sit really helps set it up. Just be careful, as the boy (Nova) can generate quite a force with the snap. The girl's (Loops) skating foot/knee needs to be close to the boy's (Nova) so he can pull into the sit. I woud press my knee to his, and that was our center. Then I could also let go of him and "lay back".

Patty, something tells me you will knock them dead!!

Todays' lesson was all Lion:

Since I had the blade on the left skate shifted, a world of improvement on the outside edge. We ran through all the edges, alternating back crossovers, power 3's and alternating 3 turns. Who would of thought just moving the blade a tad would make all the differences in the world.

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I can't wait to try this. And I couldn't help but chuckle at your use of "boy" and "girl"; that's true Nick-speak if ever I heard it!

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Oops, I guess I should clarify. I meant "why I should bother with competing." I still, and always will, love skating.

You're hitting 1 out of 10 axels? That's better than my 0 out of 300 attempts.

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I file Nick's "boy and girl" under coaching quirks.

If you two ever want to venture up here, I'd be happy to ask my coach if he could spend some time with you. He's an exceptional pairs coach. (Loops - I sent you his photo)

Hey Patty--

As a Bronze skater, I would be THRILLED to have any one your WORST days. At Coasts, you will be wonderful (as usual) and the reason you're competing is so you have one more competitive adventure in front of an adoring crowd. Besides, you always seem to turn it on and step up a level as soon as you're out there on the ice by yourself, in your lovely costume, with your big smile showing us how adult skating is SUPPOSED to look: fast, beautiful, complete, elegant and FUN! I'll be there cheering loudly for you in your Championship event.

I've seen PattyP compete. I think she's MUCH better than she's admitting on here! BTW, Patty, I won't be there physically *sob* , but I'll be there for you in spirit! And who knows, you might be able to land that "1 in 10 axel" in competition. (If you do, pump your fist at your coach and go "YEAH!!!")

Anyone in Tacoma WA wanna help me bless the ice for Patty???

Of course, I still have to cheer also to everyone at my skating club who's gonna be at Sectionals! Sadly, my primary coach won't be there to compete (at least not that I know of.), I don't know if he's gonna go there as a coach. I know he has at least one student that is competing there.

Lamb: Still not perfect, but primary coach is very happy with the forward power 3's. He says it's getting better still... Also, all my spins made an appearance, including the very backspin and camel spin!!! The magic seems to be in the spin entry. As long as I concentrated on the spin entry, the spin magically happens! Good flip day too!

Lion: Alt. Back crossover pattern is still sucky on the second half of the pattern. Primary coach is at a loss as to what happened since the first half of the pattern looks pretty good. Good flip day, but BAD loop day!

Both Lamb and Lion: Kinda tentative on this one exercise that my primary coach threw at me. It's like 2 forward crossovers, FO3 (changed from FI mohawks), 2 back crossovers, then outside mohawk back to FO edge. Repeat pattern around the hockey circle. However, after getting used to it, I did manage that pattern okay.

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Thank you for the support, you guys!!!

Oh, whee, what fun, sounds like a plan: road trip (albeit ~1 hour)!

Which rink in Baltimore are you skating in?

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I've been practice a similar exercise, with the FI mohawk (although sometimes I do a FO3), and with just one crossover in between each turn. I have a sequence like that in my free skating program and the challenge for me is to do the forward (CW) crossover on the first try (sometimes I'm anticipating the turn and get my weight too much in between my feet) and then do the turn without trying to slow down first. It's getting better and actually I find it kind of fun to do!

Pat

The forward crossover into the LFO3 is my personal nightmare in my dances since probably close to half (of not more) of the higher level dances start with the lady being backwards.

And I do something wonky with my body alignment during the forward crossover/progressive that makes the LFO3 very challenging.

Hence my signature.

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It's funny, I can't do the introductory sequence solo to save my life, but just one hand being held, and a manly pair of arms to catch me (or more usually not!) makes all the difference, and I so don't have trouble with it when I have a partner! It's weird.... I keep expecting to. I probably should go into it with a little more effort, mind....

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Patty - Good luck!
Nova and Loops, I spoke with my coach and he's happy to work with you - I e-mailed you the contact info.
I skate at Northwest Ice Rink in Baltimore and at Ice World in Abingdon. There are also several other rinks in the area. Hope we can get together soon.

Lion - skated again and focused on jumps. It feels like there's no support so I've been hesitant to do much jumping. Hoping my new boots arrive soon!

Thanx for the info, flo.
We took your suggestion and worked on tango camel/pair sit this morning. Um, yikes! I think we could have done it if I hadn't been so recalcitrant and sulky. But Loops had her own crossover problem earlier, so that made me feel a little better.

And Nick's comment to me on the axel lift: "Why are you grimacing during the lift?" Oh boy, I didn't realize I was doing that. Sorry, but lifts are my least favorite part of pair skating. But I guess I shouldn't outwardly express that--think reticence, Steve!

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Nova - keep trying - you'll get it!

The crossover problem was pretty funny, really. Everyone's done the click-of-death at some point on a back crossover, right? Who's done it during the entrance to a SPIN? A pair spin at that?

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Bwahaha! That's a good one. Never done that before -- hope I never do.

BTW, I love your sig file, LoopLoop.

I'm both happy and sad for you. Get well soon.

Lamb: I am very sheepish to admit that I blew off my Tuesday freestyle in favor of taking the kids suicide-snow tubing. It was so icy on the hill, the kids were FLYING over every little bump. When they got to the bottom, we had to stop the snow tubes before they hit the street. Thank you to the Parks Department for putting hay bales at the foot of the hill! At least I got some exercise.

Lion: I brought my old skates to work with me. Going to try and skate on the little winter rink nearby a few afternoons each week.

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