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Old 05-09-2007, 12:21 PM
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Total, utter, dead-fish stinky: All right, who nicked the RFO3 turn from my Willow Waltz? Please give it back, now. I have to compete the thing in a week!
I didn't take yours, but you can borrow mine as I'm not using it at the moment. It's pretty good, provided you remember to step on a really good true edge going into it....and don't look down.
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Old 05-09-2007, 12:23 PM
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LOL... I used to say that I cannot jump when, on take-off, I can see where I'm going to fall!
Yeah, I don't much like jumping into the void, either, LOL!
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Old 05-09-2007, 12:27 PM
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Soar: double toe
Landed quite many *clean* ones this week. I'm fully convinced that the (double) toe is an easy jump once you get it - but it really plays hard-to-get!

Stink: axel
managed to lose my axel halfway through lesson on Monday. Still can't figure out how it can just disappear in the space of 5 minutes!

I asked a friend to video my 2T - on the first one I tapped the free foot down, on the second there were people in the way. My friend said, "that wasn't good, go do some more." I landed the next two *nicely* and the zamboni came on. Later I found that my friend did not get the two that were landed!
Any tips on doing a non-cheated toeloop takeoff and getting the transition to the landing hip in the air? I can cheat the takeoff and get a nice snap with the right hip, but if I pop straight up without pivoting on the toe, I get stuck.
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Old 05-09-2007, 12:46 PM
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I asked a friend to video my 2T - on the first one I tapped the free foot down, on the second there were people in the way. My friend said, "that wasn't good, go do some more." I landed the next two *nicely* and the zamboni came on. Later I found that my friend did not get the two that were landed!
I apologise, my friend *did* get the two that were landed, I just wasn't patient enough to wait for the entire video to run (I hadn't realised he just didn't stop the video)

So, I put it up at
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1RgRSGYlF3k

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Old 05-09-2007, 12:50 PM
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Any tips on doing a non-cheated toeloop takeoff and getting the transition to the landing hip in the air? I can cheat the takeoff and get a nice snap with the right hip, but if I pop straight up without pivoting on the toe, I get stuck.
Erm... I think it there has to be a pivot on the toe - about 1/4 rev

I notice I still pick around too much... and I don't straighten my legs in the air... ARGH!!!
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Old 05-09-2007, 12:56 PM
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Yeah, I don't much like jumping into the void, either, LOL!
I had an instructor back when who used to say "Don't watch the ice, it will be there when you need it."
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Old 05-09-2007, 12:57 PM
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I didn't take yours, but you can borrow mine as I'm not using it at the moment. It's pretty good, provided you remember to step on a really good true edge going into it....and don't look down.
Thank you, Deb; I should love to borrow yours! I have a feeling that reminding the Husband he needed to practice these dances solo was a mistake (from that point of view); I'm quite sure he was on a different place on the ice.
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Old 05-09-2007, 01:25 PM
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I'm quite sure he was on a different place on the ice.
Sorry to hear you're having a bad week. I wouldn't want to Willow in front of either you or phoenix, but it was my high point for the week, as I managed to get through one at the social dance meet on Monday for the first time. Still standing at the end was about all I'll say, and the same for the fiesta--but that's an improvement on the previous week.

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Old 05-09-2007, 02:35 PM
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Stinky
-Yesterday was to be my first official test and I had visions of passing nicely (pre-bronze moves). . . alas, broke the left ankle last week. I had a moment of sighing regret yesterday morning.
-Still not allowed to put weight on the injured foot; still unknown whether I might have unusually breakable bones for my age and whether it would be an utterly stupid idea to go back to skating (and since I'm a CW skater, doing jumps that land on the injured leg). . . .

but

Soaring
-Cast came off, staples came out, and dr said I am healing well. My foot and ankle look revolting (still puffy, large incisions on each side of ankle, and very black & blue), but now I have only steri-strips and a bootie thing and I can WASH MY FOOT!! Boy, does that freedom feel good. Plus, the x-ray of my new "bionic" parts (a plate, about 1/2 inch by 3 inches, plus several screws) looked kind of cool. And I have a scooter to propel myself around, as a substitute for the klutzy crutches.
-My club has been sooo sweet. One friend called me in the hospital and sent a bunch of hot cocoa, and I hear the "purple heart award" (for anyone injured on the ice) is on its way to me in the mail. We adult skaters may be a very tiny contingent of our club, but we're very nice!

THANK YOU to everyone for your kind wishes and advice last week after my injury. I was initially quite devastated--seeing as the fracture dashed all my grandiose plans for the moment. I'm coping well, though; I am now off to soak my ugly Frankenstein foot!
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Old 05-09-2007, 03:24 PM
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...Still standing at the end was about all....

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Old 05-09-2007, 09:42 PM
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After all this confusion I had about the double toe loop, I think I'm getting it... you have to pivot BUT the right heel has to lead for it to be "proper"

Soar:
Had one beautiful double salchow in lesson. It was like the mental image of zhao throwing shen was playing in my head when I did it... if that makes sense hahahah.

Stink:
Of course I didn't hit another one like that for the rest of the lesson

Other semi... soars:
Most of my other stuff are ok. Hit my 5 axels and 5 double salchows before lesson...
Getting the rotation on double toe loop more easy now. That "impossible" heel leading take off for the double toe is.... actually happening....
Spirals about same as yesterday
Didn't fall on laybacks today but still got a bad headache after trying... maybe it will be better next week.. lol
Tested the LBO beilmann... its possible for me to do it... lol
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Old 05-09-2007, 11:00 PM
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Had one beautiful double salchow in lesson. It was like the mental image of zhao throwing shen was playing in my head when I did it... if that makes sense hahahah.
It must be that one I saw - very nice!
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Old 05-10-2007, 01:36 AM
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practice 09/05/07

Skunk: Uggh. Where to start? Well, my boots and blades are dying. And I've got 4 more sessions before I get new ones. After practice, my feet and ankles hurt, plus I think my boots are like a size too big...
Practice wasn't very good too. I flitted around practicing different things before I realised I wasn't getting anywhere and focused on my spin. Salchow was non-existent, I kept slipping on the edge and had no confidence in even taking off.
To add to that, my waltz jumps were at best, average. What?? Toeloop non existent also. So no jumps, really. And at the end, I couldn't even do a forward teapot!!!

Eagle: BUT, after deciding to focus on my spin, I did get it centered and (sometimes) did get quite fast revs (around 2, lol). No space to practice the BI edge before the curve, so I just did the curve. And spirals were quite good too. Barrel rolls were still there too.
2 girls just below my level asked me to show them the forward spin. Apparently, it "sucks less than theirs". achievement? LOL
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Old 05-10-2007, 05:21 AM
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Still standing at the end was about all I'll say, and the same for the fiesta--but that's an improvement on the previous week.
Indeed, clicking your partner's blades on the change of edge and landing on the ice in an undignified heap is a variation all too well-known to me. Including in competition.

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Yes, if I can just get through our dances in Tallinn better than I did in Le Havre (although we did what, for us, was a fantastic Willow there, very pleasing), then I'll feel ready for the Mountain Cup!
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Old 05-10-2007, 05:53 AM
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Soar like an eagle: Been having wonderful skating dreams.

Stink like a skunk: Have had a crazy week and won't manage to get anywhere near a sheet of ice until my lesson Saturday.
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Old 05-10-2007, 05:57 AM
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Stinky
-Yesterday was to be my first official test and I had visions of passing nicely (pre-bronze moves). . . alas, broke the left ankle last week. I had a moment of sighing regret yesterday morning.
-Still not allowed to put weight on the injured foot; still unknown whether I might have unusually breakable bones for my age and whether it would be an utterly stupid idea to go back to skating (and since I'm a CW skater, doing jumps that land on the injured leg). . . .

but

Soaring
-Cast came off, staples came out, and dr said I am healing well. My foot and ankle look revolting (still puffy, large incisions on each side of ankle, and very black & blue), but now I have only steri-strips and a bootie thing and I can WASH MY FOOT!! Boy, does that freedom feel good. Plus, the x-ray of my new "bionic" parts (a plate, about 1/2 inch by 3 inches, plus several screws) looked kind of cool. And I have a scooter to propel myself around, as a substitute for the klutzy crutches.
Congrats on gettin gyour cast off. I wore a boot for around 7 weeks after my ankle break and surgery. Please be very careful because of not being allowed to put weight on your injured leg. Even though I was never in a cast and was allowed to move my foot around, because I couldn't put weight on it for so long, my calf muscle wasn't engaged in anything and I got a blood clot. Watch for pain in your calf. In my case, I had no sharp pains but I was generally achy. My first clue came when a couple of pieces of the clot broke off and went to my lungs, resulting in serious pain in my back and not being able to catch my breath and breathe properly!
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Old 05-10-2007, 07:08 AM
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soar: Did some pretty good jumps today -even managing all my singles in combination with a loop. Probably down to being incredibly focused. And this in turn due to having been very upset at yesterday evenings skate club committee meeting. Unfortunatley one of the coaches decided to come along and was incredibly rude and obnoxious to myself and other members of our club's publicity team who were actually trying to be helpful and hadn't even censured him for riding roughshod over the publicity rules and skaters feelings but were trying to move things forward to prevent similar problems happening again and improve the service we gave. Upshot was I quit, so am free to enjoy my skating.

skunk: a certain coach! Not mine who was lovely thank goodness.
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Old 05-10-2007, 07:29 AM
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SOAR: Cleared to gradually resume skating. "graduated" from PT today.
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Old 05-10-2007, 09:34 AM
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Hi everyone! I'm new to posting here but have been reading threads for a while. I finally thought I'd post on this thread.

Soar: My double loops are all the way around, over my right side, and on my right foot! I just have to stand up on them.

Stink: My double sal has pretty much disappeared for the week. I don't know what's happening but maybe I'll be able to fix it today.
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Old 05-10-2007, 11:30 AM
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Stink: I don't know if it's allergies or a head cold, but I can;t breathe, so, in addition to all of my injuries, I stayed off of the ice for this, too

But

Soar: Sucked it up today and went to the rink anyway for about 25 minutes of the freestyle session

1. That wierd pop/pain hamstring pull thing? I have no idea what happened to it, but it actually went away, way too fast for a hamstring injury. Maybe it was the icing and stretching or it was just a minor pull, but it went from not being able to walk to being able to do everything (that I already can do) on the ice.

2. Worked only on scratch spin and BO3s today. Something about having my entire head feel like it's filled with mucus must be good for my spins because why they still stunk like rotten eggs, I was immensely better today than I've ever been. 3s were easy and there was a little bit of the scratch in the spin.

Maybe being sick keeps me from thinking too much?

Stinky: Tests are coming up, so the freestyle ice was packed. I felt like a lump as poor sick me kept trying to dodge out of everyone's path. Eventually, all of my energy dispersed, my nose reached maximum stuffiness, and I left, clutching my box of tissues.
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Old 05-10-2007, 11:39 AM
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Soaring: My loop worked, and my salchow felt great! I have tomorrow off, so will be able to skate a double session.

Stinky: Traffic on the Howard Frankland (Frankenstein) bridge really lived up to its name today! I was in such a good mood when I left the rink, and so frustrated by the time I got to work.
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Old 05-10-2007, 11:41 AM
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SOAR: Cleared to gradually resume skating. "graduated" from PT today.
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Hi everyone! I'm new to posting here but have been reading threads for a while. I finally thought I'd post on this thread.
Welcome!

Emberchyld: It's allergies. Take an allergy-decongestant after you get home. (No DUI, please)

Stinkin':
Since my back still hurts a bit, we stuck to MITF patterns instead of freestyle elements.

Pre-Prel Power Threes - better on the pattern than on the line, but I keep forgetting to pull my feet together before stepping forward. (I did do the end pattern correctly - yay!)

Fwd Outside threes on the line - pfffftthhh! Still struggling with a clean step forward. Grrr.

Soaring:
Crossover circles were much better than last week. I put lambswool pads under the arches of my insoles and miraculously, the foot cramps eased up and now I can push and point without pain! (Still working on that right knee, though.)

Fwd Inside threes on the line - much better; need to PUSH more. No touchdowns!

Spiral pattern - I was told it would 'totally pass.' Even the insides; guess the double-inside patterns are working!
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Old 05-10-2007, 12:29 PM
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SOAR: Cleared to gradually resume skating. "graduated" from PT today.
Who-hoo!!!!

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Old 05-10-2007, 02:25 PM
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Hi everyone! I'm new to posting here but have been reading threads for a while. I finally thought I'd post on this thread.

Soar: My double loops are all the way around, over my right side, and on my right foot! I just have to stand up on them.

Stink: My double sal has pretty much disappeared for the week. I don't know what's happening but maybe I'll be able to fix it today.
Hey, that's awesome about your double loop!! But yes, sometimes getting one jump makes you start messing up on another one. Maybe keeping the right shoulder back on your double loop takeoff has gotten you in the habit of doing the same thing on the salchow takeoff. Remember, on the salchow you need to let your right shoulder and free leg come forward and square up with your left side as you reach the end of your takeoff edge.
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Old 05-10-2007, 02:30 PM
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After all this confusion I had about the double toe loop, I think I'm getting it... you have to pivot BUT the right heel has to lead for it to be "proper"

Getting the rotation on double toe loop more easy now. That "impossible" heel leading take off for the double toe is.... actually happening....
Hey, congratulations on your soaring "Shen" double sal in your lesson, LOL!
Now can you help me figure out that double toe? I understand the pivot-type takeoff with the right heel leading because that's how I takeoff when I do a mazurka. . . BUT that keeps the right side of my body opened out once I leave the ice (ahem, like a mazurka), and keeps me from getting backward over the right hip in the air to get rotation. Any hints on getting that transition and getting that snap into rotation?
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