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Old 09-28-2005, 04:47 PM
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I thought there were Foward power three turns, and then also power 3's, power 3's being back3turn/mowhawk/repeat. Like I said I'm not testing and this is just what I'm told from kids at the rink so I could be confused.
It's the FORWARD power 3's from the prelim moves test. I'm taking the Bronze Moves test this weekend.

sunshinepointe: Yeah, I know what you mean. And yes, I do generate more speed towards the end of the length. But the problem with that is that when the secondary coach showed me the video, it looked REALLY slow!!! Of course, she only caught me on the video at the beginning of it and not towards the end where I did generate more speed towards the end. She did film the other side and that wasn't so bad, but she pointed out other things wrong on that side...
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Old 09-28-2005, 04:51 PM
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I thought there were Foward power three turns, and then also power 3's, power 3's being back3turn/mowhawk/repeat. Like I said I'm not testing and this is just what I'm told from kids at the rink so I could be confused.
The move you are describing is the back power 3's from the Juvenile MIF test. I believe you have to do a sequence of 5 in a row in each direction in sort of a figure 8 pattern. The power 3's that Jazzpants is talking about are the forward power 3's from the Preliminary MIF and Bronze MIF tests.
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Old 09-28-2005, 05:47 PM
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Personally I think the back power 3's are so much easier...you should just be able to skip forward power 3's altogether
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Old 09-28-2005, 06:21 PM
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Everybody knows that I don't usually jump in to defend Nova (hey, he's a big boy and can stand up for himself), but give him a break on this one (AN 2006). Most of us are limited in both vacation time and disposable income, so we have to make choices about when/where to compete. He *went* to nationals this year and skated very well, so if he wants to try a different challenge next year, good for him!
That's ok if he decides not to go to Dallas- it may be a crapshoot for me to even qualify. I see him at enough competitions, anyway!
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Old 09-28-2005, 07:26 PM
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Personally I think the back power 3's are so much easier...you should just be able to skip forward power 3's altogether
OH, I WISH!!! I WISH!!! I would have taken the test and pass it a long time ago if it weren't for the *%(#$& forward power 3's... I HATE THIS MOVE LIKE THE PLAGUE!!!
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Old 09-28-2005, 08:17 PM
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Meow: Sideways-leaning spin is improving! Need to get this up to par for synchro. I can actually get some lean now and keep my speed at the same time. Yay! Mostly worked on spins and footwork today. Worked on Blues choctaws in both directions, up and down the sides of the rink. Big improvement since my coach tweaked these on the weekend. Waltz, sal, toe, and loop were nice!

Hiss! Change-foot spin was not happening at all. Flip and lutz have gotten even worse. Am terrified to do BI3-FObracket at speed.
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Old 09-29-2005, 03:13 AM
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Personally I think the back power 3's are so much easier...you should just be able to skip forward power 3's altogether
Those are all right if you can do a back 3 with sufficient flow coming out of it to go straight into the Mohawk. I can't. Husband can, although his aren't pretty! Here in the UK these are a relatively high level Move, done on a circle in both directions. We don't have the forward power 3s, although we have other exercises equally as evil.....
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Old 09-29-2005, 07:04 AM
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I got to the rink at 4:40 this morning and the guy who opens it was already doing the zamboni. Thus, I was able to get on the ice at 4:50, allowing me 10 minutes to wake up before my lesson. I had been up since 3:30 because my 4 month old elected to have a lengthy discussion this morning instead of sleeping, so I just stayed up. However, despite all this, my lesson went very well. We worked on outside counters left/right and loops you would be shocked. They are completely different! We are talking real beautiful counters. The word of the morning was swoop in order to get me to do them correct...whatever works for those of you wondering. My coach gives me buzz words to fit the movement. I also have a "shark" drill and a "bottle" hockey drill that assisted in the good counters. The inside counters were fine because I like them and I actually practice them. My backward inside & outside 3 turns were pretty good in both directions. My coach was trying to explain a drill and of course I did it wrong thinking it was a different drill and he said, "Oh, I like that drill much better." I laughed and said, "That's because it's your drill." My back rocker-choctaw was overall good after fixing my body position on right edge. The best part of my lesson..."A lot of your moves are will be passable in a few weeks." Okay, whether they are or not remains to be seen. I would definitely like to pass my novice moves this year (2005-2006).

Loops...you'll be happy to know that I did run-through my program twice (without the music). I couldn't see the buttons on the sound system and no one was really very awake this morning as no one had even turned on the music by 5:30.

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Old 09-29-2005, 08:30 AM
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Skatergirlva, what did Christopher want to talk about this morning?
Good job on the moves!

I was frustrated last night; yesterday morning I did some nice easy axels and last night couldn't do one to save my lift. Grrr. Or, to be appropriate for the thread, HISS!
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Old 09-29-2005, 08:47 AM
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I was frustrated last night; yesterday morning I did some nice easy axels and last night couldn't do one to save my lift. Grrr. Or, to be appropriate for the thread, HISS!
But your pair camel and axel lift were looking very strong last night!
And where did that pair sit come from?
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Old 09-29-2005, 09:24 AM
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Meow: Had a good choreography session for our interp pairs program. It's very artsy.

Hiss: I only wish we had more time - the 1:40 is too short for all we could put into it.
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Old 09-29-2005, 09:31 AM
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Personally I think the back power 3's are so much easier...you should just be able to skip forward power 3's altogether
My issue with these (on the intermediate moves pattern) is 1) they want you really flying through them and 2) you have to do them off such a shallow edge to be on pattern. I didn't mind them so much on the juv. pattern. And I practice on an Olympic sized rink, so that makes it even worse.

HISS: I'm finally giving up trying to manage my "I'm bored with all these exercises" snit on my own, & have asked my coach to have a discussion about it all. I've done nothing but exercises/drills since June. They have done me a LOT of good, and I know they're necessary to get me up to the next level & look like I belong there. But I feel like I'm in this endless sea of exercises & every day is the same, & there is no end in sight. My coach isn't one to give much feedback, so I don't have a good sense of how far I've come, or even how far there is yet to go. I need something to measure by. So I need him to help me adjust my attitude, & I need him to help me see where I am in the grand scheme of things (and what exactly the grand scheme is, while we're at it!). So I left him a semi-weepy voice mail message asking for a "talk" in my lesson on Friday. Poor guy---I bet that's the worst part of being a male coach--dealing with us emotional girls!!
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Old 09-29-2005, 11:05 AM
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My issue with these (on the intermediate moves pattern) is 1) they want you really flying through them and 2) you have to do them off such a shallow edge to be on pattern. I didn't mind them so much on the juv. pattern. And I practice on an Olympic sized rink, so that makes it even worse.

I wish I had an Olympic sized rink to practice on - although I skate relatively slow, I tend to cover a lot of ground and I'm always bumping into people.

I looked at the patterns for Intermediate and Juv. moves and I'll agree with you that the Juv seems much easier - on the Int. it would seem like the 3 turns have to be much quicker on the Int. pattern, but I know from a friend of mine that the judges hate the "helicopter" look. Personally, I've not passed pre-pre (heck I'm not even a club memeber yet) but this is what I hear through the grapevine
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Old 09-29-2005, 11:45 AM
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Meow: Worked on Pre-Bronze Moves stuff Wed night...very cool things indeed! Although my back edges need tons of work, it's do-able. And, she told me to stop nit-picking my spins (the traveling)!!! Salchows! Toe-Loops! I'm actually getting them! She added a glide and step before, so I get more oomph and it really helped. Then, for icing on the cake, backspins (during which I put another hole in my pants-so that's 2 from backspins) which I really need to work on but I'm putting them under meow because i really wanted to learn them! Waltz-8 pattern! Once I did it a few times, now I can understand the picture in the book and can do it right (I'm deficient that way)

Hiss: My waltz jumps sucked!!! I rushed them...guess I got too excited! She wants me to slow down and relax. Get more "air" and "spring" which I know I can do. I anticipate the jump so much I don't let it happen naturally (although I did some on Tuesday that were beautiful-flowed and had height; I was relaxed, or tired!). So that's my homework.
And ice show parts...guess I'll be busy for the next few months...and we haven't even started choreographing my routine for the exhibition in December!
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Old 09-29-2005, 04:58 PM
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Meow: sister didnt skate so i got an extra dance lesson .Had a freestyle lesson afterward.Did some really nice spins(coach was happy)footwork sequence is getting better.

Hiss!:Coach is putting another axel in my program and my competition is next saturday!
Did my program it wasnt the greatest

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Old 09-29-2005, 05:53 PM
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Meow:
  • Well I survived today's lesson with primary coach.
  • Primary coach couldn't understand why those back crossovers on this move is different compared to the other moves... he has no issues with the back crossovers on this move. So I switched my back crossovers on the other moves and pretend I was doing the back crossovers for this move and it went a lot smoother...
  • The other moves seems to be stable. Not perfect but stable.
Hiss:

Nerves are starting to kick in...or rather the STRESS is starting to kick in. I'm very frustrated about this test... I'm frustrated b/c I have been giving it my all to do well for this test, but it might not be enough to pass again... and I'll have to stop and think of what I would have to do to change the situation so I would learn what I need to learn to pass this test.

I'm going into the test with a few thoughts in my mind:
  • Do my back crossovers on all the other moves on this test the same as I do my back crossover to BO edge.
  • This is still a learning experience and there was a reminder from the primary coach that both coaches thought this moves is much better than last year when I took this test the first time. Even if/when I do pass it, I still have to continue practicing these moves... mainly for my programs, but also b/c I'll be doing the prelim and pre-Juv standard moves eventually.
  • I hate thinking this way, since I REALLY like my secondary coach and I think she's a wonderful coach and lady, but since she doubts that I'm going to pass this test, I'm JUST gonna have to prove her wrong and GIVE IT MY ALL! (Terri's theme "UP YOURS!!!" does have a nice ring to it, I think!!! ) Besides, I think she WANTS me to fight her on this!
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Old 09-29-2005, 06:59 PM
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meow! I can do the sit-back sit! Focusing on lifting the rib was making me huncho over on the transition, so I refocused on pressing the shoulders down (since I hunch badly) and I managed a spin that was 4-2.5 revs.

Meow, meow! Worked on the axel too! Since I am only in the beginning stages, it was from a standstill in T-position, loaf of bread, swish by the hips, lift, cross your heart, land in a backspin. Coach was surprised to see I could do this without pitching the body too much one way or the other, said my posture was GREAT. I'm still thinking landing it is a year or 3 off, but I'M WORKING ON IT.

Hiss: Kids who don't watch where they are going. The adults can't be the constant monitors, sometimes we have to go backwards. Almost brained a kid while I was in a camel spin, now what could I do about that? And another got in my way while I was doing a loop-loop. Argh!
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Old 09-30-2005, 02:22 AM
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Hiss:

Nerves are starting to kick in...or rather the STRESS is starting to kick in. I'm very frustrated about this test... I'm frustrated b/c I have been giving it my all to do well for this test, but it might not be enough to pass again... and I'll have to stop and think of what I would have to do to change the situation so I would learn what I need to learn to pass this test.
[*]This is still a learning experience and there was a reminder from the primary coach that both coaches thought this moves is much better than last year when I took this test the first time. Even if/when I do pass it, I still have to continue practicing these moves... mainly for my programs, but also b/c I'll be doing the prelim and pre-Juv standard moves eventually.[*]I hate thinking this way, since I REALLY like my secondary coach and I think she's a wonderful coach and lady, but since she doubts that I'm going to pass this test, I'm JUST gonna have to prove her wrong and GIVE IT MY ALL! (Terri's theme "UP YOURS!!!" does have a nice ring to it, I think!!! ) Besides, I think she WANTS me to fight her on this![/list]
C'mon JP-- You know Jay wouldn't put you out there to test if he didn't think you would pass. After all, you are a reflection of his coaching abilities.. and heaven knows he does NOT like to look bad at ANYTHING!

Remember to breath and treat this as if it were a performance, as if you were chosen out of thousands of skaters to demonstrate these moves because you are the perfect ABM skater. Have an "I can do this, don't you wish you could do this as well as I can?" attitude. Take your time on the moves, bend your knees, look confident and relax.

Good luck, I'll be thinking happy thoughts for you Saturday morning. And an early skate may be good: the judges will not have had time to get upset about having to get out of bed early to watch several other testers who look nervous, aren't bending their knees and are acting like they've never skated before.

Just think, you get the ice ALL to YOURSELF.. no small children to dodge, no one running a program that you have to avoid and no hockey players throwing things on the ice. And HAVE FUN!!!
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Old 09-30-2005, 08:04 AM
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Mew: Ran through everything. All okay, perhaps a bit slow over the ice, but apart from that.....

Hiss: The competition is tomorrow and I'm nervous!

Talk to you all again on Monday, when I'm sure Samba, Batikat and I will be wanting to tell you all about it - and anybody else who was there (Tashakat????).
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Old 09-30-2005, 08:35 AM
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Hiss! Had my lesson las night....Ugh - I was WAY off in my jumps last night. Maybe it was from taking Tuesday off but I felt like I regressed in the flip and lutz. (My loop was the same level of suck). I also worked on backspins and camels without much success. I keep rocking on the toe in the camel (I thought I broke that habit!) and sitting too far back in my blade on the backspin creating an awful scratching, grinding halt after 2 or 3 revs, sometimes not even that many.

I took a hard fall on the first flip of the evening. Good height and speed + dropped shoulder + late checkout = harder fall. Insult to injury - I did the exact same thing later on in the lesson with the lutz. I'm limping about this morning - it hurts just to stand, yet oddly no bruise yet.

I did land ONE clean flip and ONE clean lutz out of say, 4-5 attempts each but I landed like an elephant. Sheesh.

Meow!

I finally get the consecutive brackets. I need to get more speed and flow, but I can do like, 10 brackets or so in a row without much difficulty.

Waltz jumps, toe loops and salchows are basically consistent. My coach hardly looks at them anymore before moving on. In fact he called my toe loop "impressive". LOVE the toe loop.

My coach wants me to start working on loop-loop combos but I started overthinking it. So, from the other thread where people were saying to do it from a RFI3 or a LFO3 to RBO edge I decided "what the heck".

Loops were SO easy this way. Almost TOO easy. My coach hates both of these entries equally, and quite frankly so do I, but if it helps me get the timing I need for the loop from back XO's, so be it. After I did a bunch of loops from the three turns I went and did a regular loop without much difficulty. Sweet.

Even better - I was able to do ALL of the following from the three turn entries or other methods

loop-loop
loop-loop-loop
Waltz-loop
waltz-loop-loop
backspin (sort of lol) - loop
waltz-loop-backspin

Mind you all of these jumps are SO small, but my skate buddy said that they were recognizable as actual jumps. I think in the loop-loop-loop sequence I'm cheating the jumps a bit but hey - this is a big first step for me with this jump.

When I told my coach he was happy for me, but made a face when I told him RFI3 entry helped me do it. So picky

My scratch spins were very centered tonight, but slow for me.

Sit spins were centered for the most part, but not as fast and low in revolutions. My blades might still be a smidge too sharp.

Spirals were complimented - "They're SO HIGH!"

Umm....I think thats it. I certainly hope my funky shoulder cuts it out and I get my strong checkout back.

I've also made the decision to join my rinks club and start testing next year. I think having a formal structure, at least for MIF will improve the quality of my skating. My coach feels I can pass Pre-pre without a hitch, and he's quite confident I can pass preliminary with a little bit of practice. Fortunately for me my group coach is big on working on MIF so I'm very familiar with "harder" MIF.

Okay, that's it for me - gotta get ready for work! Can't wait to skate tomorrow (although my right butt tells me otherwise!)
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Old 09-30-2005, 11:52 AM
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Mew: Ran through everything. All okay, perhaps a bit slow over the ice, but apart from that.....

Hiss: The competition is tomorrow and I'm nervous!

Talk to you all again on Monday, when I'm sure Samba, Batikat and I will be wanting to tell you all about it - and anybody else who was there (Tashakat????).
Go KICK some ICE BUTTS tomorrow, Annabel!!!

You'll do just great! Remember our promise to each other -- I'll do my best if you do your best this weekend!

Am resting up for tomorrow morning. I somehow caught another cold, courtesy of DH. (He had it last week... though he claim for him it's just a cold and it disappeared a couple of days later...)
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Old 09-30-2005, 01:42 PM
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Jazz, good luck tomorrow! Think of it as a chance to show the judges -- and Jay -- how much you've improved over the past year.
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Jazzpants, is this the one & only opportunity you'll have to test for a whole year? Sounds like it's been a year since you last tested--are there other test sessions throughout the year for you? Just curious.
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Old 09-30-2005, 04:54 PM
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Jazzpants, is this the one & only opportunity you'll have to test for a whole year? Sounds like it's been a year since you last tested--are there other test sessions throughout the year for you? Just curious.
Oh, no!!! I still have at least one more test session at my home rink this year and can go to other rinks (getting permission from my home rink and the visiting skating club and shelling some extra $$$ for it.) PLENTY of opportunities to test!!!!

The reason why I didn't test for an entire year b/c I was busy fixing those problems that was mentioned in my test forms. (Altogether now.... "AHHHH!!!") The reason why I'm stressed about this test is... I don't want to end up in a situation where I would have to do both the Moves AND the FS tests on the same day! I wanted to focus on one test at a time...
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Old 09-30-2005, 05:07 PM
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This is for Wednesday and yesterday:
Hiss: That time of the month! I'm tired and feel like I have to muscle any jumps I do, if they're not off to begin with. I had back and stomach cramps and managed to tough it out and skate, but it was no fun!

Meow:
Since freestyle elements are not up to happening, I worked on moves.

My 2 cents worth on tests:
Sometimes there's this thing called life that keeps one from testing when or as often as they'd like. If I had my way and my world had not been turned upside down this summer, I would have had at least one attempt at the Bronze moves test already!
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