What move drives you nuts trying to master? I am thinking more along the lines of a move that "holds" you back as far as the testing levels, even though you may easily do more advanced moves.

Mine is outside alternating three-turns. ARG!!!!!! My coach thinks I should stop worring about it since all my three-turns on their own (and entering jumps) are very strong, but it drives me crazy that I just can't get this. I can do three-turns in the field (pre-juv/adult silver), forward double three-turns (juvenile/adult gold), etc but not alternating outside threes!

Anyone else here have a move that gives them fits?

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The back perimeter crossover stroking move from Pre-Juv/Adult Bronze. Grrrr.

TaBalie, I agree with you - alt 3's are

Clockwise forward crossovers. Heck, counterclockwise crossovers, too!
Kinda makes those power circles in gold moves next to impossible.

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It doesn't hold me back from testing but I really struggle to do toe loops at any thing like near the speed I do all my other jumps including axel. The jump really freaks me out at anything other than a very slow speed, so naturally I hardly ever practice it!

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Brackets with any speed, Killian choctaw up to speed, twizzles w/ speed, hmmmm, seems to be a recurring theme here! I like to skate s*l*o*w....

Me too! My toe loop is a tiny little thing. It's really strange. And I have a bad habit of not picking and taking off on the flat. eek. It just feels awkward to me.

I'm gonna be a pain and say that ALL of the Adult Bronze Moves gives me the fits!!!

But if you want a specific move... probably now it's an even toss up between: 1) forward power 3's on prelim/Bronze Moves test, 2) 5 step mohawks on the pre-Juv/Bronze Moves test and 3) alt. spirals on the prelim moves test. (It's the one move my back and I agree on HATING a lot!!! Never mind that I have a horrible turnout so it's incredibly hard for me to have a nice line on my free leg. (Foot is facing DOWN... I really have to twist my free leg and ankle JUST to turn the foot to the side...)

Hey, NoVa: I dare 'ya to take a moves lesson with the Moves Nazi to work on your forward crossovers come December!!! I'm already taking the dare of taking a lesson with him myself... and I know my basics are CRAP! (*PLUS* I'm a BIG CHICKEN to boot...boc boc boc!!!)

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Thank you for the support, you guys!!!

Back 3's ... I HATE back 3's! Mind you, it's the move that I broke my wrist on but even before then I hated them

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Loops, I do them perfectly at home, but put me in a competition and they just disappear.

BI 3-turns! Especially on the left foot.... I MUST have been able to do them at one point.. I passed Pre-Juvenile Moves. I even passed the LFO-RBI and RFO->LBI element by all three judges. But I have no idea how.. or if they were good enough to pass, where those BI-3s have gone.

LFI 3 turn! The more I practice, the more drastic is the gap between my right and left legs. Right ones are smooth and confident and left - I simply can't do it at all, except with a very short entry edge, where I push off and turn almost at the same time. It's a mystery!

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RFI 3-turn at any kind of speed. Drives my coach nuts. You can only imagine how my toe loop and loop are coming along.

Intro-3s ... see my sig.

Nasty things they are....

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Hey all,

I wouldn't say it's holding me back exactly, but I find the back double three turns (Adult Gold/Intermediate) to be terrifying. It's not so much the move itself as much as trying to practice it with other people on the ice. I can't tell you how many near-collisions and collision-collisions I've had with this move. I'm trying to turn my head on the turns to look out for people but half the time I'm still unable to stop in time when I see people.

I haven't learned this pattern yet but I think that the back perimeter stroking to power three turns around the ends (Intermediate) is going to kick my butt. (What can I say? I'm a pessimist. )

You know, I'll say this, if the Moves Nazi...ummm...Moves Guru (I promised I wouldn't call him a Nazi. ) could get me through Gold moves, then he can do anything. I'm a total moves-klutz. NoVa, if you feel okay with getting a different perspective on moves, it can't hurt to have him take a look at your crossovers. We'll all be there to protect you if he decides to swoop down on you and lay down the verbal smackdown. I've been on the receiving end of those verbal smackdowns on several occasions. You've just gotta remember to bob and weave. BOB AND WEAVE!

Take care,

Frank

The five step mohawk, as much as I love that move, drives me crazy!
Or better yet, just trying to get my Bronze moves test scheduled !!!

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I have not mastered mohawks -- Never mind brackets, choctaws, rockers or counters, which I cannot even begin to do! My mohawks are very scraped and not quiet. I managed to get past Bronze moves finally, but in silver moves, the 8-step mohawk sequence is probably going to hold me back from testing for awhile.

Can't for the life of me get swing rolls properly. But I don't test, so it's more for myself. But the alternating back crossovers are really good (according to my coach). But htose damn swing rolls, forget it. Even when I go really slowly, I still get all mixed up.

Even though I haven't really started working on the Silver moves, I can predict that the RBI and LBO 3s on the 3-turns in the field will be my nemesis

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I worked on the Intermediate back perimeter stroking with back power 3's (back three turn - mohawk on the ends) move for an entire year and barely worked on the other patterns in the test. I finally passed. Now the Novice forward perimeter crossover stroking to back quick rockers thingie is going to kick my butt. I can do them at a medium pace but nowhere near the "quickness" expected in the test.

I still can't turn at speed without a partner - I don't even need him to touch me, just to be there. I did think it was a confidence issue, but recent experience on the ice suggests that actually, my body position on the ice is better if I have someone to focus on.... don't know if that makes sense or not.

Right now, I won't pass Level 3 Bronze Dance Moves until I can improve my back cross-cuts (see my .sig), and I won't pass Level 4 Silver Compulsory Dances until my Fiesta Tango improves.

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At this moment, I'd have to say the forward crossrolls on the silver test. Either I'm pushing with my toes, or placing my foot down on the wrong edge, or not getting enough lean, or not getting a good rip on the edge, or getting too 'bouncy' in my upper body --- take your pick on what I'm doing wrong during any given session.

Now that's where I'm weird ... hate back 3's but LOVE double back 3's!

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I think after working on the ISI 4 dance step, I'll be okay on the 3 turns in the silver test. What I just can't get the hang of is power pulls.

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The Lutz. I've had this jump for over 7 years, but it seems to give me fits at the worst possible moments, like when I'm at AN. I know that it's all mental as the flip jump is one of my favorites. How can a change of edge make that much difference??? There are pre-bronze skaters that have better lutzs than mine.

Of course any double jump is on my list too....

The inside three after the swing mohawk in the Harris Tango.... scrape scrape scrape.... aaaaaak

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