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Old 08-04-2006, 06:02 AM
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I think that the ones that just keep on skating are the types that don't care about their future kid or about themselves......or just not too bright.
Er - I think you probably need to know rather more about people's individual situations before making sweeping statements like that!

Don't forget that, as my brother (at the time working as a shepherd) told me when I was expecting my daughter, "Exercise is good for pregnant things!"
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Old 08-04-2006, 06:37 AM
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Er - I think you probably need to know rather more about people's individual situations before making sweeping statements like that!

Don't forget that, as my brother (at the time working as a shepherd) told me when I was expecting my daughter, "Exercise is good for pregnant things!"
In that same post, I wrote "Although, I do agree.....it's their body, so they should do what they want, but deal with any negative consequences that result from not being careful enough during their pregnancy."
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Old 08-04-2006, 09:05 AM
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In that same post, I wrote "Although, I do agree.....it's their body, so they should do what they want, but deal with any negative consequences that result from not being careful enough during their pregnancy."
There's a difference between "being careful" and not skating at all, though. But then, I think you suffer from the delusion that skating is a more dangerous sport than most....
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Old 08-04-2006, 09:58 AM
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Yeah... I was "not careful enough" and the result is a beautiful, healthy baby boy. Actually, a beautiful, healthy BUSY 13 month old.

It's not for everyone, but my doctor and I felt that as long as I was comfortable and careful and cut the intensity of my workouts, being active was just fine. I do know that I was absolutely comfortable the entire pregnancy until about four hours before I delivered -- when I was in active labor. Do I think that me staying active the entire pregnancy was part of why I felt so good? Yep -- even though I'd gone from running to walking to walking really slowly by the end, I needed the exercise to stay fit mentally and physically. And I did work until the day before I delivered -- I work seated at a desk in a non-stressful, enjoyable environment -- waaaay more fun that sitting on the couch watching soap operas and being bored.

I dont want to start an argument, but there's a difference between saying "It's not for me" and saying "You're stupid if you do."
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Old 08-04-2006, 10:33 AM
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Quarkiki2 and other nice responses - Thank you for the nice and SMART thoughts. Many of the responses I've gotten have been wonderful and nice well wishes. However, I'm still having a hard time believing how obnoxious and opinionated a few of the others have been.

I am happy to continue being active during pregnancy and hope to continue having an easily pregnancy and healthy child as many other pregnant skaters have.

For those critical of what I'm doing - my doctor says it's 100% fine with her and that works for me. God for bid my child is not "normal", it certainly won't have anything to do with skating.
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Old 08-04-2006, 09:07 PM
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There's a difference between "being careful" and not skating at all, though. But then, I think you suffer from the delusion that skating is a more dangerous sport than most....
You thought wrong unfortunately.... unless you're lying or just simply conjured up what you said (which is a bad habit).

You seem to forget that not only you can make mistakes on the slippery and hard ice, but others can also make mistakes on the ice and slam into you, and how things like hairpins etc on the ice can cause even the best skaters to go for unexpected tumbles. No point in having a fall and risk damage to the baby and yourself.

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Old 08-04-2006, 10:33 PM
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I think that the ones that just keep on skating are the types that don't care about their future kid or about themselves......or just not too bright. Not exactly the same as for those moms that smoke cigarettes throughout their pregnancy, but still crazy to have to put that kind of pressure on their body and the child they're carrying. Although, I do agree.....it's their body, so they should do what they want, but deal with any negative consequences that result from not being careful enough during their pregnancy.
Wow, what a judgmental comment.
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Old 08-05-2006, 01:52 AM
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Easton-Skater

Hi Easton-Skater

Just as a matter of interest, are you a man or a woman?
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Old 08-05-2006, 02:52 AM
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Hi Easton-Skater

Just as a matter of interest, are you a man or a woman?
Hi Samba. I'm a guy.
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Old 08-05-2006, 03:08 AM
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Wow, what a judgmental comment.
True....but put it this way. If you're preggy and skating along and somebody runs into you or you skate on a hairpin lying on the ice, and you take a tumble, and complications result......the husband and his family and your family would probably say 'you fool!', and the doc would say 'oops! oh darn it....that's too bad I guess' (because the doc isn't your family member or anything, so the loss isn't going to affect the doc much at all.....maybe a little bit only, but no real loss to the doc).....or would say 'oh ....unfortunately, I didn't take spills into account when I said it was fine with me'.
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Old 08-05-2006, 07:33 AM
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You thought wrong unfortunately.... unless you're lying or just simply conjured up what you said (which is a bad habit).
There is no need to be offensive, and, in fact, I understand that it is against the T&C of this forum.

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You seem to forget that not only you can make mistakes on the slippery and hard ice, but others can also make mistakes on the ice and slam into you, and how things like hairpins etc on the ice can cause even the best skaters to go for unexpected tumbles. No point in having a fall and risk damage to the baby and yourself.
My husband has a really rather nasty graze on his knee. This was caused by his tripping and falling on the pavement (sidewalk). Are you, perhaps, suggesting that a pregnant woman should stay in bed for nine months lest she, too, trip and fall over something on her bedroom floor? That would be a sure and certain way of giving birth to an unhealthy baby.
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Old 08-05-2006, 09:08 AM
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There is no need to be offensive, and, in fact, I understand that it is against the T&C of this forum.
*snip*
Then please follow your own advice. Recall that you typed....

"I think you suffer from the delusion that skating is a more dangerous sport than most...."

It is against the T and C of this forum, as you pointed out.

Also, please cut the jive about grazes on knees and things like that. The chance of falls on slippery and hard ice is not negligible. A lot of people have fallen due to hair pins and things on the rink floor. They are too small to see sometimes and you just slip when the skate blade crosses over one. For your husband, or whatever, who is not pregnant.....a little graze on the knee. But for a pregnant person, much more damage is at stake from a fall. And sometimes, natural instinct to prevent a fall is to do sudden adjustments on the body/muscles to stay balanced. This sudden adjustment could also be damaging to the mother and baby within. You yourself should know better than to continue skating while being pregnant. And sure....exercise is necessary.....but low risk exercise....not exercise where you could slip over and fall hard on the ice.

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Old 08-05-2006, 09:15 AM
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I expect most conscientious women know their limits and do not put their baby's health at risk on a whim. And NaomiBeth has cleared her skating with her doctor, who, y'know, might be knowledgeable in these things. Exercise is recommended for pregnant ladies and there's no reason why skating can't be done early on.

With a pregnancy and skating, there's far likely more risk to the mother (flexible joints) than there is to the baby, even taking falls into account. (Pregnant women have tripped! in the past! and it doesn't mean they miscarry or their kids grow third arms or develop Down's syndrome because genetic diseases happen from falls, dontch'a know. )
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Old 08-05-2006, 09:42 AM
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I think it's time to cut the nonsense about skating while pregnant. There are various sources of information, not just the random link that I pasted below, that recommend pregnant people not to ice-skate. The reasons for not doing it are completely obvious.

http://healthresources.caremark.com/...xercisedangers

"Certain sports and activities are not recommended during pregnancy because they are potentially dangerous for you or your baby. You should use your best judgment, of course, but if the activity seems risky, skip it. Definite no-no's include horseback riding, snow- and water-skiing, ice-skating, soccer, and any other sport where you may be inadvertently hit by a ball or other object."

That's all I'm going to add in this thread about this.
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Old 08-05-2006, 11:01 AM
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That's all I'm going to add in this thread about this.
Oh, good! I've heard enough.
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Old 08-05-2006, 11:09 AM
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Oh, but I bet that if men got pregnant, doing sports during preganancy would be a entirely different ballgame (yes then pun is intended!).
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Old 08-05-2006, 11:13 AM
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Easton-Skater: WHATEVER....

NaomiBeth1: If your doctor says it's okay to just do gentle stroking and moves, go for it! Use your best judgement! You know what's best for your body!!!
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Old 08-05-2006, 11:18 AM
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Well, an internet link surely settles it. Because all information on the internet is so trustworthy it should always be regarded over the advice of one's personal physician.
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Old 08-05-2006, 11:27 AM
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True....but put it this way. If you're preggy and skating along and somebody runs into you or you skate on a hairpin lying on the ice, and you take a tumble, and complications result......the husband and his family and your family would probably say 'you fool!', and the doc would say 'oops! oh darn it....that's too bad I guess' (because the doc isn't your family member or anything, so the loss isn't going to affect the doc much at all.....maybe a little bit only, but no real loss to the doc).....or would say 'oh ....unfortunately, I didn't take spills into account when I said it was fine with me'.
I think you have just made a very good point for all pregnant women staying out of automobiles for 9 months. In fact, the number of bad falls I have had on the ice (caused by me or someone else) are about the same as the number of car accidents I have been in during the same period: about one every 2-3 years. And none of these falls has been onto the front of my body, a fall that rarely happens and usually only happens when first learning forward spirals. I don't know how bad a fall it takes to cause a miscarriage or damage a fetus --a good thing to ask the doctor--but that's exactly what amniotic fluid is for, and why our species is still thriving.
I think the key is to only practice things you are used to practicing, not to start working on anything brand new. If you practice things you are used to doing, your body has already figured out how to do a controlled, low impact fall when you make a mistake. Not true of new jumps or edgework. And as for freak accidents, well, might as well stop riding in cars.
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Old 08-05-2006, 01:36 PM
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And as for freak accidents, well, might as well stop riding in cars.
Or even getting out of bed. Eastonskater has made it quite clear, whatever he says, that he considers skating a dangerous sport - well, nobody is asking him to do it! But getting out of bed in the morning is dangerous.....
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Old 08-05-2006, 02:54 PM
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*snip*

I think the key is to only practice things you are used to practicing, not to start working on anything brand new. If you practice things you are used to doing, your body has already figured out how to do a controlled, low impact fall when you make a mistake. Not true of new jumps or edgework. And as for freak accidents, well, might as well stop riding in cars.
This accords with the general advice my friend who is doing his residency in OB/GYN and pediatrics would give. During pregnancy it is fine to exercise your normal routine, modifying it as it becomes more difficult or uncomfortable, but pregnancy is *not* a time to start anything new that's particularly challenging. It's not the time to begin a powerlifting regimen or to begin training for a marathon, or to start working on your throw-double axel. But if you're already a weightlifter, continuing to train under supervision won't hurt. If you're already a marathoner, running a few miles a day won't shock your system.

(And yes, contra Easton-skater, the doctor thinks about slipping on ice and falling.)

It *used* to be conventional wisdom that a woman shouldn't do anything strenuous at all while pregnant, but that's no longer true! Pregnancy wouldn't be a time to begin learning to skate (or to mountain climb, or run marathons), but it's surely not that risky for an experienced skater practicing familiar moves, especially in the first trimester before most of the balance issues set in. It's nowhere near smoking or binge drinking in terms of risks.

What should drive it is the mother's comfort level, not misogynistic worries that someone's husband would say 'you're a fool!'

It's not like people miscarry when they sneeze.
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Old 08-05-2006, 07:29 PM
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Well, an internet link surely settles it. Because all information on the internet is so trustworthy it should always be regarded over the advice of one's personal physician.
The same will be said about information from just ONE personal physician. But you already knew that I mentioned VARIOUS SOURCES (which doesn't necessarily mean from the internet), but you chose to ignore that part.
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Old 08-05-2006, 07:33 PM
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This thread is done,
We've all had our say,
Time to move on,
To another thread today!

All the best for a healthy delivery, NaomiBeth.
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