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Audryb
04-24-2009, 02:17 PM
Is there a name for a jump that takes off like a waltz jump, rotates half way like a waltz jump, but lands on a LBI edge rather than RBO (that is to say, lands on the same foot you jumped off) A couple little girls were doing this last night after learning a half loop, and calling it a "half waltz." I was wondering if it's an actual element with a name.

sk8lady
04-24-2009, 03:21 PM
Yes, that is a half waltz. I had an "old school" coach some years ago who taught it to me but I don't think I've seen others do it except possibly in combination with straight-line footwork.

Audryb
04-24-2009, 03:28 PM
It actually looks pretty cool.

fsk8r
04-24-2009, 03:36 PM
Over here we call the waltz jump a three jump, and as this jump you're describing is more like a three turn than you'd imagine a waltz jump to be, I've heard this jump called a jumped three (turn). But I think it's one of those things which gets thrown into step sequences or transitions.

sk8ryellow
04-24-2009, 05:18 PM
Its a bell jump!

Isk8NYC
04-24-2009, 05:36 PM
Its a bell jump!A "Bell Jump" is a full revolution, not a half revolution. She described a waltz jump that lands on the same foot. There's a half-revolution in the air and a change of edge and foot direction, like a three-turn.

It's sometimes called a "three jump" or a "jumped 3" depending on where you're from.

sk8ryellow
04-24-2009, 05:41 PM
oh well maybe shes talking about a walley?:frus:

jp1andOnly
04-24-2009, 06:30 PM
nope..walley is all the way around. It's a 3 jump (we call it that in Canada) Basically a jumped 3 turn

oh well maybe shes talking about a walley?:frus:

sk8ryellow
04-24-2009, 07:32 PM
huh, I'll have to ask my coach to show me.

Isk8NYC
04-24-2009, 10:33 PM
oh well maybe shes talking about a walley?:frus:A walley takes off from a back inside edge and lands on the same foot's back outside edge after completing a full revolution. (RBI for CCW skaters)

It's a three jump or a jumped three. http://www.skatejournal.com/jump.html

doubletoe
04-25-2009, 12:00 AM
It can also be considered a jumped 3-turn.

katz in boots
04-25-2009, 03:57 AM
At our rink we call it a 1/2 waltz, though they certainly are most like a jumped 3 turn. Whatever, I think they look cool. I've been experimenting with doing a flip off the BI edge landing, with some success. Never could get the salchow coach wanted from it though.:lol:

CanadianAdult
04-25-2009, 10:49 AM
3 jump around here.

They're on Gold Skills, described as "LFO 3 Jump, RFO 3 Jump", done right after each other and it's a pretty looking connecting move.

sk8ryellow
04-25-2009, 12:40 PM
I think I have done one of those, I was showing a hockey player how to cheat at his three turn and I did a three turn but instead of turning on the ice I turned in the air half a rotation, is that it?

Isk8NYC
04-26-2009, 11:20 AM
I think I have done one of those, I was showing a hockey player how to cheat at his three turn and I did a three turn but instead of turning on the ice I turned in the air half a rotation, is that it?
Yes. It's a jumped three turn or a "Three Jump"

londonicechamp
04-28-2009, 03:38 PM
Hi

Can it be a half loop maybe? Just learnt that jump in my group lesson last week, pretty cool really. :lol:

londonicechamp

Isk8NYC
04-28-2009, 08:26 PM
Can it be a half loop maybe? A half loop takes off from a back outside edge. The original poster said it was a forward edge takeoff.
In addition, she said the jump took off forward and landed on the same foot, on the back inside edge.

A half-revolution jump with a forward entry edge that lands on the opposite edge of the takeoff foot is called a "Jumped Three" or a "Three Jump" depending on where you live.

kayskate
05-03-2009, 08:53 PM
It's a 3 jump or jumped 3 turn.
Try doing a salchow right after it. It looks great.

Kay